Portis and Cooley Calling Out an Offensive Teammate?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Move it along....nothing to see here.

I just don't understand. Portis uses the word WE at least 10 times in that quote. In the paragraph above the one you qouted, the author makes a point to say that Portis was given ample opportunity to call out someone and didn't do it. So how do you go from that to Portis and Cooley call out someone?

Great post

[Daseal]

I couldn't agree more with the statement that "they could blow anyone out". They just need to start using all 7 receivers (5 WR, 2 TE) and if they do their job there's just no stopping. I would love to see that.

I'd hope we blow them out if we're starting 13 on offense.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I'd hope we blow them out if we're starting 13 on offense.

I didn't say start them all at the same time. Use them in rotation around the game.

[Longtimefan]

Sounded like normal locker room chatter about what they could do, should do, can do, or refuse to get done. Speaking of blowing people out, they have to first demonstrate they can score twenty one points a game, and even then, that score would hardly be on the way to blowing anybody out.

Further, they're going to continue to hear the fans voice their negative aproval until they can demonstrate (on a consistent basis) they can go out and do all these things they say they SHOULD be doing. Talking is cheap and easy, the fans want to see results, and until they do the criticizm will continue. They say we don't know, and we don't understand......well some of us may not understand this "rocket science" they call football, but we do know and understand what we see, and all too often what we see is not pretty and leaves a lot to be desired. THEY say they're going to be better. We're waiting.

[skinsfan69]

blah blah blah.... both of their comments makes no sense. Cooley needs to realize that although we may be talented on paper we don't play smart football. So that makes you an average team. And CP needs to STFU with his calling out teammates. Let's say the fumble never happened. Does anyone actually think NY would've been playing the type of defense they were on that last drive? No. They would've stopped us cause our offense isn't good enough to score when it really matters.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

blah blah blah.... both of their comments makes no sense. Cooley needs to realize that although we may be talented on paper we don't play smart football. So that makes you an average team. And CP needs to STFU with his calling out teammates. Let's say the fumble never happened. Does anyone actually think NY would've been playing the type of defense they were on that last drive? No. They would've stopped us cause our offense isn't good enough to score when it really matters.

speaking of blah blah blah...

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I took it as them talking in general, and not pointing fingers at anyone specifically.

That is my take...basically if everyone collectively executed their assignments perfectly on every play they would blow everyone out...

By the way, every team in the National Football League could say the same thing.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

They have the team to blow people up. Other teams have done so with less. If no one else will say it I will, Santana Moss gives up on plays. He doesn't do his job. Bench his ass and put in Malcolm Kelly or Marko Mitchell. They're eager and hungry to prove they can do it. Let Moss get out of the dog house by running back punts and kicks.

You're really adamant about this benching Moss thing. I don't think there's really anyone else we have that would make a good #1. I mean you could bump Malcolm Kelly up to #1, make Thomas #2 and keep ARE in the slot, making Mitchell the #4..

But that seems all sorts of messy. And how long would you wanna bench Moss for? I bet if we did that to him, especially for more than a week, he'd probably want out.

[ChickenMonkey]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

They have the team to blow people up. Other teams have done so with less. If no one else will say it I will, Santana Moss gives up on plays. He doesn't do his job. Bench his ass and put in Malcolm Kelly or Marko Mitchell. They're eager and hungry to prove they can do it. Let Moss get out of the dog house by running back punts and kicks.

I agree totally, no one has called Santana out, and he often gives up on routes, and plays...He did that on the Capmbell pick and he did it last yr in a game.....Zorn needs to have the guts to bench him (I'd trade him for picks in 2010)

[JWsleep]

I for one am glad to hear folks getting snippy. Time to step up. Zorn has been more vocal and so have the team leaders. Make a friggin play! If your job is to block the backside on a quick slant in the redzone, make a block. If your job is to stop a rookie WR from waltzing down the sideline to the endzone, make a friggin tackle.

I'd be more worried if they weren't snippy at this point. They watch the film and see what we do--they are better than what we saw on Sunday, IMHO.

But, of course, talk is cheap. Winning cures all. GO OUT THERE AND WIN SOME GAMES!!!!!!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I for one am glad to hear folks getting snippy. Time to step up. Zorn has been more vocal and so have the team leaders. Make a friggin play! If your job is to block the backside on a quick slant in the redzone, make a block. If your job is to stop a rookie WR from waltzing down the sideline to the endzone, make a friggin tackle.

I'd be more worried if they weren't snippy at this point. They watch the film and see what we do--they are better than what we saw on Sunday, IMHO.

But, of course, talk is cheap. Winning cures all. GO OUT THERE AND WIN SOME GAMES!!!!!!

Damn Strait! Don't tell me, show me!

[FREE-AG3NT]

I'm not saying Cambell played a great game but Cooley single-handedly lost the wildcard game against the Seahawks. Tell me whats worse, a rusty first game against a divisional rival on the road or missing an easy first down catch that stalled a great fourth quarter comeback?
I remember Cooley made the pro bowl that year and it looked like he had a black eye. I wonder which teamate decked him for missing that catch?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You're really adamant about this benching Moss thing. I don't think there's really anyone else we have that would make a good #1. I mean you could bump Malcolm Kelly up to #1, make Thomas #2 and keep ARE in the slot, making Mitchell the #4..

But that seems all sorts of messy. And how long would you wanna bench Moss for? I bet if we did that to him, especially for more than a week, he'd probably want out.

That would confirm to me the quality of his character. I think Malcolm Kelly can do it. ARE is filling in nicely in the slot. From what I see that's where he should've been all along. Mitchell or Thomas are good enough for the other WR position.

Moss needs to man up. Off the field he seems like a cool cat. On the field is a different story. He makes good plays every once in awhile. I'll give him that. He's a great player. He doesn't always live up to his talent because of his mental weakness. I'd rather have a player who doesn't have his talent, a player who is reliable and doesn't hurt his team.

[SBXVII]

I think Cooley's comments seemed to be directed at the whole offense. It sounded as though he was trying to say that on every play or every other play someone (a different individual each time) is not doing their assignment. In other words on each play a different player has screwed up somehow and with that you have no consistancy. At least it seemed that way to me Sun. also. That's partially why I'm still miffed about the fact the Giants beat us when I seriously think we are the batter team.

Heyer screwed up once allowing one sack

someone else screwed up and allowed a sack

I saw the right Guard totally let one defensive lineman run right past him, he kinda side stepped him to block a LB or someone else.

No one was opening holes in the D-line for Portis to run through

Campbell could have stepped up in the pocket on the fumble

Moss could have come back for the ball, instead he leveled off his route and seemed to just jog to the sideline allowing the defender to intercept the ball.

Hall missed a few tackles

Smoot missed a few tackles

Landry wanted to take someones head off but either kept whiffing on the play or he redirected them. He failed to stop them. Piss poor tackling.

Boss seemed to have a good day cause Fletcher either could not keep up or was 5yrds behind every catch.

so on and so forth.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Sounded like normal locker room chatter about what they could do, should do, can do, or refuse to get done. Speaking of blowing people out, they have to first demonstrate they can score twenty one points a game, and even then, that score would hardly be on the way to blowing anybody out.

Further, they're going to continue to hear the fans voice their negative aproval until they can demonstrate (on a consistent basis) they can go out and do all these things they say they SHOULD be doing. Talking is cheap and easy, the fans want to see results, and until they do the criticizm will continue. They say we don't know, and we don't understand......well some of us may not understand this "rocket science" they call football, but we do know and understand what we see, and all too often what we see is not pretty and leaves a lot to be desired. THEY say they're going to be better. We're waiting.

Ya know your 100% correct. I'm almost missing Norv Turner at this point. He atleast got us to the play offs frequently. It's a crying shame when I'm starting to think that way.