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Old 09-10-2019, 03:07 PM   #61
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BMitch like to play both sides of the fence and he totally did with the Guice thing. BMitch doesnt like Gruden so I'm not surprised he'd find a BS was to blame him. Guice was cleared to play and he played and got hurt. Nothing more nothing less.

If you think back to training camp there was some talk that Guice was nursing a problem that was never really discussed. I always think that one thing leads to another and if Guice was truly nursing something with his leg then I wouldn't be surprised if somehow that minor injury lead to this.

I have no problem with them benching AP. This team is going nowhere and its time to see what the young players can do. Unfortunately we now know Guice is injury prone and likely isn't the bell cow RB the team was hoping he could be.
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Old 09-10-2019, 11:24 PM   #62
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I know Guice only had 10 carries. But others, with much more football knowledge than me, have written that Guice just didn’t look to be at 100% for Philly and pushed it because it was his first NFL game and he was the starter.

All I’m saying is that if AP was there to take a few carries this might not have happened. Somehow we went from 60%/40% talk in TC/PS for the Guice/Peterson mix to 100% in the first game of his NFL career and after a major injury last year. WHY? Did Guice suddenly look so awesome in the preseason games that Gruden could just dump AP?

For a team with an excessive amount of injuries, two seasons in a row, perhaps a conservative approach to using players with injury history was the best path.

Did Jordan Reed really need to play in the preseason? The Eagles played NONE of their best players even a single play in the PS.

Could Guice have used a little help in his first game after an ACL last year?

You can make a case that every injury is just bad luck or an “act of God”. Perhaps. Or perhaps with a little extra care they may have had less of a Chance of happening.


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If they didn't think Guice was a 100%, there would have been a different plan. If he let on as though he was 100% and he wasn't, that's completely on him. He looked fine to me though, there just wasn't anywhere for him to run.

As far as playing in the preseason, yes Jordan Reed probably should have played because he needed the reps. Everyone has their own school of thought on how much you should play in the preseason. Tom Brady played. The Super Bowl MVP played in the 4th preseason game. I think it just boils down to what work you think your guys need to be prepared for the season.
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Old 09-11-2019, 07:25 AM   #63
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Funny thing is we have Love sitting on IR with a bad knee. These guys love drafting injury prone players. It's like they think they're getting value in guys cause they fall in the draft. What difference does it make if they're always hurt?
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:08 AM   #64
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Funny thing is we have Love sitting on IR with a bad knee. These guys love drafting injury prone players. It's like they think they're getting value in guys cause they fall in the draft. What difference does it make if they're always hurt?
They draft them, then keep them when they should just cut their losses. I don't know what they are thinking. What does Jordan Reed get like $10 million a year? He is either in street clothes or playing too dinged up to be effective 1/2 the time. So in reality you are paying 20 mil for every 16 games a tight end who can't block his mother is effective.
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Old 09-12-2019, 09:51 AM   #65
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Guice is meeting with DR. James Andrews today and the expectation is that he will need surgery... Timetable is 6-8 weeks per ESPN.

Its time to move on from him, he will never be healthy
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:34 AM   #66
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Guice is meeting with DR. James Andrews today and the expectation is that he will need surgery... Timetable is 6-8 weeks per ESPN.

Its time to move on from him, he will never be healthy
Have you ever of the term “bad luck”, “snake bitten”? Shit happens!! Unfortunately we are one of those teams, you can blame the training staff whatever, I say it’s pure shitty luck.
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:50 AM   #67
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Funny thing is we have Love sitting on IR with a bad knee. These guys love drafting injury prone players. It's like they think they're getting value in guys cause they fall in the draft. What difference does it make if they're always hurt?
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Old 09-12-2019, 10:57 AM   #68
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Yup...the strategy of drafting a guy at discount because of injury is one this team shouldn't be implementing. Not with out injury history and overall talent on the team...we don't have the space.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:04 AM   #69
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Guice is meeting with DR. James Andrews today and the expectation is that he will need surgery... Timetable is 6-8 weeks per ESPN.

Its time to move on from him, he will never be healthy
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Have you ever of the term “bad luck”, “snake bitten”? Shit happens!! Unfortunately we are one of those teams, you can blame the training staff whatever, I say it’s pure shitty luck.
If it keeps happening year in and year out with the Redskins always among the leaders in lost games due to injury something more than bad luck is at play. Obviously many injuries are unavoidable, but some are. A good example was RG3, that guy was an accident waiting for a place to happen. He seemed to contort his body often in a way that made it seem he was trying to maximize possible injury from contact, not minimize it. He was either not taught how to properly protect himself or it wasn't stressed to him enough.
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ESPN's Adam Schefter has reported that RB Derrius Guice is expected to be sidelined six-to-eight weeks in the likely event that he undergoes surgery to repair his torn meniscus.


Guice is in Florida today to meet with Dr. James Andrews and get a second opinion on his torn meniscus. Schefter noted that, "In the likely event that Guice decides to undergo surgery, he would be expected to be sidelined six to eight weeks." This is a longer timeline than initially thought, as Guice stated he was expected to miss a "few weeks." The Redskins will move forward with Adrian Peterson as their early-down grinder with Chris Thompson taking the majority of snaps on pass downs and in two-minute situations


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Old 09-12-2019, 11:26 AM   #71
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When we drafted Guice I really felt like he would be our workhorse all around back, should have seen this coming the first snap he took in a game tore his acl. SMH
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When we drafted Guice I really felt like he would be our workhorse all around back, should have seen this coming the first snap he took in a game tore his acl. SMH
6th carry but still, he cannot catch a break. I feel for the guy because he has all the talent but dang 3 games a pro with a total of 28 carries and 2 major knee injuries. Sucks for him and us and add RB to our list of needs.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:53 AM   #73
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Funny thing is we have Love sitting on IR with a bad knee. These guys love drafting injury prone players. It's like they think they're getting value in guys cause they fall in the draft. What difference does it make if they're always hurt?
They saw what happened with Jaylon Smith, difference is his really was a major freak accident that happened.

Guice can't even get started to show what he can do
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Old 09-12-2019, 12:06 PM   #74
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Jay wanted Peterson gone. Front office said no.

It's pretty bad when Bruce Allen makes you look incompetent.
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Jay wanted Peterson gone. Front office said no.

It's pretty bad when Bruce Allen makes you look incompetent.
Ha...it also kinda stinks when the Front office and Coach cant get on the same page. But AP back is big...but I wouldn't be surprised if CT gets a lot of run.
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