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Old 12-08-2022, 11:46 AM   #16
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Yup

Oline is an issue.

Leno and Cosmi are fine imo. Lucas is a good swing tackle.

Roullier is good. But Cosmi and Roullier have not stayed healthy the last couple years.

Norwell and Turner are done. Larson is a backup and injuried again.

My opinion is you need to keep swinging with multiple draft picks this year for the Oline. Move on from Turner, instead of resigning Wes, take a little more money and invest it in a multi year contract with a solid interior Oline at RG.

Charles has been a bust. Chris Paul is a guy who’s gotten no opportunity to play even with the injuries this year which should tell you something.
I wouldn't give up on Paul yet. Unless you're elite, it's hard to come in from those smaller programs and make an impact up front. I think he will be a good backup next year.

Injuries are so frustrating when it's the same guys. Chase is a proven player and Cosmi has tons of potential. But if you can't ever stay on the field, the team is kind of held hostage. As players, too good to get rid of, but always injured so take up roster spots that could be used on players that don't get as hurt as much for whatever reason.
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Old 12-08-2022, 11:52 AM   #17
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I'd keep:

Leno
Cosmi
Chase
Paul

Re-Sign:

Schweitzer (if he is willing to re-sign to a similar contract that he previously did)

Draft (at a minimum):

Center
Tackle

Then bring in some vets at the G position to compete for spot(s).
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Old 12-08-2022, 11:55 AM   #18
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Our 2023 draft picks for anyone curious:

R1 (18)
R2 (49)
R4 (97)
R4 (119)
R5 (153)
R7 (193)
R7 (214)
R7 (235)
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When you look at the guard position, Wes (3.5) and Turner (3j contracts are up. That’s like 6.5 mill for both cap hit, take that money and invest it in a better player in the interior
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Our 2023 draft picks for anyone curious:

R1 (18)
R2 (49)
R4 (97)
R4 (119)
R5 (153)
R7 (193)
R7 (214)
R7 (235)
Isn’t there a compensatory 3rd rounder.
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Old 12-08-2022, 12:13 PM   #21
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When you look at the guard position, Wes (3.5) and Turner (3j contracts are up. That’s like 6.5 mill for both cap hit, take that money and invest it in a better player in the interior
Wes has been a solid player for us. I think he's a very valuable guy. I wouldn't be opposed to signing a higher cost player and keeping him. The cap will be going up again.

Can't go wrong with being stout upfront on either side.
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Isn’t there a compensatory 3rd rounder.
I'm not sure if we don't have one or it just hasn't been announced yet, so it's not included. Pulled from:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com...%20key%20above.
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Re: Grade the O Line at the Bye

LT Leno gives you another year of acceptable LT play

LG Norwell is okay and under contract for another year

C .. love Roullier but not sure we can count on him

RG .. no body under contract next year, would like to seed Cosmi moved there

RT Lucas under contract next year but Id like to see an upgrade RT so Lucas can slide back to being our swing tackle when someone gets injured.

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RT would be my priority, unless we can find a stud LT then move Leno over

C would be considered

We have had success finding servicable affordable IOL in FA .. even servicable Ts in FA can be found
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they're not good :/ TH has decent pocket awareness to help compensate. Not sure why 58 PFF rated / 27th in the league OL deserves Bs. BR and CS are running over/around a lot of people to even hit that 4.0.

run C(-)
pass D

leno and cosmi have a roster spot, not sure about the rest (just depends on who they can find to replace them).

My immediate reaction was
Run A
Pass D

I was going to say that the A has as much to do with our backs as the oline. You are right though. It has more to do with our backs.

After more thought
Run C+
Pass D
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I still feel Howell is our future QB, would love to somehow see what he can do. At this stage is wait till next year. Would hate to waste a high pick on a QB when OL, LB and CB are priorities. If Mac Jones and Purdy can do it, so can Howell.
I sure hope you're right. If that's right you can remove Qb from the list. But LB still comes before OL in my view. Oline needs improvement, but we have decent guys in there, add one quality proven vet and spend a couple of mdi to late round pick and this Oline is legit. The LB squad is weak AF. We have 2 decent players and then nobody. We need a playmaker AND some depth. It's the weak link of this D.
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Isn’t there a compensatory 3rd rounder.
Yes there is, we'll be getting a compensatory for Scherff at a 3rd round value and then a compensatory for Settle at a 6th round value.

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-picks
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Re: Grade the O Line at the Bye

After listening to Cooley’s last appearance on Sheehan’s podcast and hearing how much we’re in max protect it makes the OL being an off-season priority even more important for me. We’re basically handcuffed on offense right now especially in the pass game.
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So our picks should be the following, with the exact order approximated because the season isn't over yet. 20th pick would be assuming we'd exit in the first round of the playoffs.

Round 1 - #20
Round 2 - #51
Round 3 - #97 (from Scherff)
Round 4 - #121
Round 5 - #155
Round 6 - #196
Round 6 - #214 (from Settle)
Round 7 - #237
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After listening to Cooley’s last appearance on Sheehan’s podcast and hearing how much we’re in max protect it makes the OL being an off-season priority even more important for me. We’re basically handcuffed on offense right now especially in the pass game.
Definitely agree. I'd be good with a T and G in rounds 1 and 2 for sure depending how the board falls.

Could get a good G with the 3rd round compensatory, too.

A dependable T would go a very long way. We could kick Cosmi inside permanently, who could hone the craft and become a very good Guard. Then get another strong young G and that relegates the Norwell / Turner experiment to a depth play.

I'd like to be in the position where we're cutting a guy who the staff would see as 'serviceable' due to numbers.
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So our picks should be the following, with the exact order approximated because the season isn't over yet. 20th pick would be assuming we'd exit in the first round of the playoffs.

Round 1 - #20
Round 2 - #51
Round 3 - #97 (from Scherff)
Round 4 - #121
Round 5 - #155
Round 6 - #196
Round 6 - #214 (from Settle)
Round 7 - #237
Nice, awesome to pick up 2 extra picks, especially the Scherff one since we're losing a 3rd rounder on Wentz.
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