Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[SFREDSKIN]

This is pretty shitty and selfish of Trent and his agent for pulling this shit when knowingly that Scherff is up for a contract renewal, the team is in the hole for $20M for Alex Smith. The team put up with his pot suspensions, getting hit in the head with a bottle at bar in Hawaii and his many injuries. The only way to pay Trent and Scherff is to cut Norman, Reid and Davis.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is pretty shitty and selfish of Trent and his agent for pulling this shit when knowingly that Scherff is up for a contract renewal, the team is in the hole for $20M for Alex Smith. The team put up with his pot suspensions, getting hit in the head with a bottle at bar in Hawaii and his many injuries. The only way to pay Trent and Scherff is to cut Norman, Reid and Davis.

No he isn't. He is looking out for himself, just like every other smart player and smart owner.

None of that is his fault.

You're talking socialism brah.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Trent Williams is worth more to us than any other team. We won't get anything in a trade that will be worth it. He is a freaking Skins legend that is still one of the best LTs in the game. Pay the man. He's a lifer.

If we can only do one deal tho, it would suck, but Scherff is more important long term. He is our future Sliverback (anchor).

I don't have faith in the Skins a lot of times, but I think they figure out a way to get both done.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Trent Williams is worth more to us than any other team. We won't get anything in a trade that will be worth it. He is a freaking Skins legend that is still one of the best LTs in the game. Pay the man. He's a lifer.



If we can only do one deal tho, it would suck, but Scherff is more important long term. He is our future Sliverback (anchor).



I don't have faith in the Skins a lot of times, but I think they figure out a way to get both done.

How many wins with him next year, and how many without him?

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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

No he isn't. He is looking out for himself, just like every other smart player and smart owner.

None of that is his fault.

You're talking socialism brah.

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He is “under contract”, I hate it when players pull this strong arm tactics. Honor your fucking contract, you’ll get paid.

[VTSkins1961]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He is “under contract”, I hate it when players pull this strong arm tactics. Honor your fucking contract, you’ll get paid.

Totally agree. Hate to say it but handle it like the Patriots do. They'd trade him... Hell they cut a te for not showing up at camp and te is a position of need.. They are a no-nonsense organization. Its a team. If we extend him him we stand a good chance of not being able to resign shereff (sp) and others....

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He is “under contract”, I hate it when players pull this strong arm tactics. Honor your fucking contract, you’ll get paid.

This is his last chance for another good contract. He won't get paid in 2 years.

But I do agree with you about honoring your contract. You thought it was good when you signed it and you did sign it. Tough situation. C'mon Trent and Skins, figure this out.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He is “under contract”, I hate it when players pull this strong arm tactics. Honor your fucking contract, you’ll get paid.

Should the team honor its contract with Norman or cut him a year early?

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[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is pretty shitty and selfish of Trent and his agent for pulling this shit when knowingly that Scherff is up for a contract renewal, the team is in the hole for $20M for Alex Smith. The team put up with his pot suspensions, getting hit in the head with a bottle at bar in Hawaii and his many injuries. The only way to pay Trent and Scherff is to cut Norman, Reid and Davis.

Who knows how much Scherff and Williams want? Scherff is not getting more than the top tackles make. And does he want to stay? 14 million a year?

What kind of extension is Trent looking for? Would he accept an incentive-based extension?

There should be enough money. If Smith is a 6/1/20 cut he is just a $10 million dollar hit in 2020 and 2021. This will be Norman, Reed, and Davis last year. Plus there could be a major increase in the cap limit next year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is pretty shitty and selfish of Trent and his agent for pulling this shit when knowingly that Scherff is up for a contract renewal, the team is in the hole for $20M for Alex Smith. The team put up with his pot suspensions, getting hit in the head with a bottle at bar in Hawaii and his many injuries. The only way to pay Trent and Scherff is to cut Norman, Reid and Davis.

simply not true

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is pretty shitty and selfish of Trent and his agent for pulling this shit when knowingly that Scherff is up for a contract renewal, the team is in the hole for $20M for Alex Smith. The team put up with his pot suspensions, getting hit in the head with a bottle at bar in Hawaii and his many injuries. The only way to pay Trent and Scherff is to cut Norman, Reid and Davis.

Completely false.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Completely false.

I love how everyone is so eager to cut JNO lol, I hope he balls out this year to quiet the haters.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Completely false.

Then explain. What happens if Trent wants more guaranteed money upfront, same with Scherff. How is the team gain more cap space? I’m no cap expert and was assuming since you have to pay 2 players a lot money and have barely any cap space.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Then explain. What happens if Trent wants more guaranteed money upfront, same with Scherff. How is the team gain more cap space? I’m no cap expert and was assuming since you have to pay 2 players a lot money and have barely any cap space.

You've been around this site long enough to hear me explain cap rules ad nauseum over the years. You should have a basic understanding by now.

If you prefer to keep it simple, just take my word for it on all things salary cap.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Cut Vernon Davis and give Trent a few million per year more. Otherwise, you go into a major rebuilding mode.

So nobody is actually going to value wins added for next year?

He is already making bank. So you're advocating making him the highest paid OL.

You should at least be able to value what he brings to the team in wins.

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