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Old 09-16-2019, 01:40 PM   #1
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3-4 vs. 4-3

I know we run multiple fronts, but our "base" is 3-4.

Feels like we've always been trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

I would really prefer our base was a 4-3.

DE - Sweat, Kerrigan
DT - Bama Boys (with great rotation with Matty and Settle)
OLB - Dion Hamilton or Harvey-Clemons, Holcomb
MLB - Bostic (Hamilton could play here too)

I think our talent fits this better and it would keep our DTs so much fresher throughout the game.
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:44 PM   #2
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

With our personnel we are better fit for 4-3 and on the back end as well. Most 4-3 teams run QTRS coverage which is Cover 4, that is for teams that lack the speed in the secondary as each player is responsible for 1/4 of the field.. We are running Cover 3 and praying Montae can cover the space... Another inept coaching decision
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

Even if this is accurate (and I don't profess to know enough about football to have a strong opinion), is it realistic to expect the team to switch in season? Is that done (successfully or otherwise)?
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With our personnel we are better fit for 4-3 and on the back end as well. Most 4-3 teams run QTRS coverage which is Cover 4, that is for teams that lack the speed in the secondary as each player is responsible for 1/4 of the field.. We are running Cover 3 and praying Montae can cover the space... Another inept coaching decision
Nicholson - Fast, zero discipline
Apke - Fast, not very good
Moreau - Fast and injured

Speed is definitely a concern. Even with the speed guys we have, we have issues.
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Even if this is accurate (and I don't profess to know enough about football to have a strong opinion), is it realistic to expect the team to switch in season? Is that done (successfully or otherwise)?
With our coaching staff? They can't seem to coach any scheme lol. But we run some 4-3 already, so in theory, it should be doable.
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

should have never tried the 3-4 in my opinion. Hasn't worked out well for us at all. I prefer 4-3 and seeing that we run it sometimes, as stated earlier, it should be doable
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Even if this is accurate (and I don't profess to know enough about football to have a strong opinion), is it realistic to expect the team to switch in season? Is that done (successfully or otherwise)?
That is hard to do in the season, i'm sure its possible since they are all pro athletes but I doubt the team would even try it
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That is hard to do in the season, i'm sure its possible since they are all pro athletes but I doubt the team would even try it
Manusky won't even try rushing 5 guys. I want our next HC to be a defensive minded coach. I actually want the Cowboys DC as our HC.
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

There are very few 3-4s in college therefore the number of natural nose tackles are limited. To me going 4-3 makes more sense especially in a passing league.
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Manusky won't even try rushing 5 guys. I want our next HC to be a defensive minded coach. I actually want the Cowboys DC as our HC.
me too, said it last yr but will he come to this shit?
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me too, said it last yr but will he come to this shit?
Pride and $$$, yeah, I think we can get just about any coordinator to be our HC. Only 32 jobs available, risky game to pass on any of them.
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

More and more teams are using 11 personnel formations on offense. And that would dictate a nickel defense as a minimum to match up against that. I think I saw a stat that on Sundays Cowboys/Redskins game, that Dallas used 11 personnel on over 70% of their offense snaps.
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Re: 3-4 vs. 4-3

Not familiar with the term 11 personnel, but if 4-3 is your base, you can drop to a 4-2-5 if you want an extra guy to help defend the pass when the down and distance dictates it.

I mainly want a 4-3 because I think it fits Sweat, Kerrigan, and all our DTs better.
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Not familiar with the term 11 personnel, but if 4-3 is your base, you can drop to a 4-2-5 if you want an extra guy to help defend the pass.

I mainly want a 4-3 because I think it fits Sweat, Kerrigan, and all our DTs better.
11 personnel = 3WR, 1TE, 1RB

Base 3-4, strength is the LBs. Against 11 pers, would need to put more DBs, taking away some of the strength of the 3-4.
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11 personnel = 3WR, 1TE, 1RB

Base 3-4, strength is the LBs. Against 11 pers, would need to put more DBs, taking away some of the strength of the 3-4.
Got it. Yeah, that seems to be the new normal. Would be interesting to know the league wide % of that group throughout the NFL thru 1st 2 weeks.
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