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Old 10-19-2010, 01:48 PM   #31
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This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.
It would make field goals interesting.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:54 PM   #32
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This thread lacks a real issue.

Therefore, I suggest that the problem is not Rogers' hands, the problem is the shape of the ball. The NFL needs to adopt a round ball like in volleyball. Discuss.
INTs may increase, but fumbles would skyrocket.

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Carlos' only hope so be a turnover force is if they start using these:

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Old 10-19-2010, 02:00 PM   #33
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It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:07 PM   #34
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Yes, but catching the ball IS part of his job.


If he were a LB, it would be less of an issue...but INTs are part of what a DB is SUPPOSED to do.

This would be like a catcher who can't throw the ball...like Jorge Posada who only throws out 14% of base-stealers. Yes, he's great at other parts of his game, but his one big issue does end up costing the team far more often than it should. Makes for a tough decision for the team.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:17 PM   #35
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The NFL introduced this flukey rule in the last 10 years that a receiver or a defender must maintain possession even after hitting the ground when falling to the ground as a single act following the catch. By this new definition of what constitutes a catch, Butch Johnson's TD in Super Bowl XIII would have been an incompletion. That said, if a receiver or defender makes a 2nd act after the catch, tucking the ball away, cutting upfield, tripping on his own, falling, then fumbling, then the ground can most certainly cause a fumble.
Thanks SM for the explanation. I wasn't sure I could actually express what I wanted to say about the play and make it make sense.
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:19 PM   #36
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It is what it is. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it. He's a DB, not a WR. The guy can't catch. Tell me something I don't know.
So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:56 PM   #37
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So when you're watching games and you see him drop INTs on a weekly basis, your initial reaction is just meh, not his job?
At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:55 PM   #38
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This isn't a stat I would have expected Rogers and Revis to share

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According to STATS LLC, Rogers has failed to come down with a league-high six "pickable passes" this season. He's had 10 since the start of 2009, tying him with Johnathan Joseph and Darrelle Revis for the most over that period.
Sports | Redskins CB Rogers can cover, still can't catch | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:10 PM   #39
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Ironically, playing Madden last night Carlos Rogers made a one-handed pick. If I could figure out how to save Madden highlights, I would have. Of course, Madden Carlos Rogers also proceeded to drop three INTs in that same game.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:13 PM   #40
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I haven't bothered looking but Rogers should have the worst hands in the game in Madden.
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:32 PM   #41
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He has a 35 catch rating
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Old 10-22-2010, 02:39 PM   #42
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Should be in the negatives LOL

I always laugh when he snags a pick or two in a game.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:10 PM   #43
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At this point I just laugh cause he's dropped so many. His first job is to cover and he's been doing a decent job. Would you rather have Rogers, who has been covering well, or Hall who catches everything but can't cover Danny Amendola. Give me Rogers.
They just provide extra stress on the fans in their own ways. I don't unequivocally like either. Rogers could have changed many games for the better, but he did not make the plays.
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Old 10-24-2010, 12:07 AM   #44
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Most - - not all to be sure but most - - defensive backs are players who cannot catch the ball well. If they were reliable catchers, they would be WRs. DBs have comparable speed to WRs; they are agile like WRs. Other than the fact that WRs tend to be a bit taller on average than DBs, the most significant difference between the players who man those positions is the ability to catch a football reliably.

Carlos Rogers is an extreme example of this point - - but it is true for well more than half the DBs in the NFL.
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