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Old 05-12-2020, 06:54 PM   #556
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I'm single now. Gonna be a lone wolf for a long time.

Meet someone online and have to test them before they come inside? 🤣😂
Even if she tests clean she could be carrying germs on her exterior body or clothes. Just have her strip naked in your garage, put her clothes in the wash machine and then hit the shower. You will have to watch to make sure she cleans herself properly. Of course most would think that is going too far on a first date, but we all must be safe, that has to be the new normal.
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This will have to end soon, solitary confinement is considerd an inhuman form of imprisonment. I know it's a joke but does have a little truth in it.
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This will have to end soon, solitary confinement is considerd an inhuman form of imprisonment. I know it's a joke but does have a little truth in it.
Any time I have had to venture past the mom and pop stores into larger cities for business supplies it seems to me things are just as crowded as ever as a whole. Fredricksburgh Va, is just as crowded as ever and then some. Traffic on HWY 95 does seem lighter.
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Any time I have had to venture past the mom and pop stores into larger cities for business supplies it seems to me things are just as crowded as ever as a whole. Fredricksburgh Va, is just as crowded as ever and then some. Traffic on HWY 95 does seem lighter.
At times. Rt 1 up around Quantico always seems a bit busy.
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I run the corona stats daily: here's what we've got for the counties as of May 13th:
Columns as follows:
mdRegions are DCPl: DC area, Balt: Baltimore area, LwES: Lower Eastern Shore, UpES: Upper...
South and West are obvious:
Cases/million #cases estPopulation mdRegion countyName
11077 10072 909308 DCPl Prince George's
7152 738 103195 LwES Wicomico
6919 7283 1052567 DCPl Montgomery
6346 123 19383 UpES Kent
5769 3476 602495 Balt Baltimore City
5315 177 33304 UpES Caroline
5093 1302 255648 DCPl Frederick
5022 4160 828431 Balt Baltimore
4817 778 161503 South Charles
4507 2596 576031 Balt Anne Arundel
3892 1258 323196 Balt Howard
3533 595 168429 Balt Carroll
3188 102 31998 LwES Dorchester
2636 271 102826 UpES Cecil
2477 629 253956 Balt Harford
2412 125 51823 LwES Worcester
2326 214 92003 South Calvert
2254 254 112664 South St. Mary's County
2099 149 70975 West Allegany
2070 104 50251 UpES Queen Anne's
1986 51 25675 LwES Somerset
1902 287 150926 West Washington
1677 62 36968 UpES Talbot
206 6 29163 West Garrett

More data to follow by zip code.
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Here's data by zip codes (note: they don't report if less than 9 cases). These, like the last are in order from worst to best. Zip codes where they haven't reported cases are excluded:
The columns are

Cases/million zip population #cases
27261 20783 45559 1242 *
24402 21649 2131 52
21205 20737 21787 462 *
20093 20722 6022 121
19050 20784 30184 575 *
18622 20903 26206 488
16496 20782 32553 537 *
16043 20860 2805 45
15803 20706 42397 670 *
15138 20781 11626 176
14805 20710 9794 145
14530 20705 27873 405 *
12953 20712 9496 123
12232 20902 52484 642
12074 20785 37601 454
11919 21607 839 10
11292 20769 7439 84
11001 20708 27089 298
10955 20877 38885 426
10707 21224 50433 540
10673 20906 70174 749
10417 21640 1440 15
10374 20724 17736 184
10229 20707 32556 333
10060 20794 16601 167
10045 20745 28472 286
9871 20904 57035 563
9849 21133 32489 320
9326 20886 34100 318
9257 20770 24629 228 *
9046 20622 6301 57
9028 20735 39323 355
9011 20716 22083 199
9009 21804 40402 364
8962 21703 36265 325
8962 20901 36154 324
8812 20747 39946 352
8780 21702 42028 369
8774 20746 27241 239
8666 20743 39234 340
8575 20912 26239 225
8491 21403 30855 262
8373 21228 48133 403
8247 21215 58448 482
8045 20763 2113 17
7971 20748 38011 303
7914 20720 23502 186
7898 21801 30007 237
7831 21911 11238 88
7749 20721 29811 231
7738 21207 47687 369
7694 21050 18586 143
7676 20772 44948 345
7585 20744 54453 413
7319 20879 27871 204
7263 20774 46812 340
7163 21668 1815 13
7162 20910 42868 307
7090 21632 6065 43
7073 20613 13855 98
6842 21229 47644 326
6833 21208 36441 249
6817 20623 2934 20
6802 21237 30286 206
6790 21205 14580 99
6753 21826 5331 36
6722 21054 11009 74
6715 21401 37081 249
6662 21244 35724 238
6587 20607 11234 74
6511 20853 31178 203
6508 21701 37185 242
6401 20905 18123 116
6298 21227 33822 213
6223 20851 15106 94
6216 21651 2735 17
6210 20603 31401 195
6081 21620 13155 80
6058 20695 7924 48
6042 21032 8276 50
5813 20866 16171 94
5809 20740 31848 185 **
5805 20895 19637 114
5756 20723 35091 202
5671 20876 28919 164
5647 21678 1771 10
5638 21771 29265 165
5589 21239 31133 174
5532 21851 6869 38
5508 21206 51561 284
5496 21220 40211 221
5482 21045 39946 219
5474 21202 21010 115
5432 21090 10494 57
5427 20814 28930 157
5423 21225 33927 184
5410 20872 12940 70
5405 20861 1665 9
5374 21012 21772 117
5373 20874 61045 328
5369 20602 26078 140
5365 21061 54059 290
5305 20715 26768 142
5198 21231 16160 84
5085 21704 16518 84
4957 21222 54873 272
4941 21076 17204 85
4940 20711 7085 35
4926 21117 58673 289
4848 20601 26401 128
4826 21213 31701 153
4825 21794 2280 11
4802 21060 34360 165
4770 21218 49271 235
4656 21234 68938 321
4647 21075 32496 151
4625 20646 20974 97
4499 21223 23560 106
4464 21230 34947 156
4380 21157 36985 162
4332 21136 34164 148
4309 20764 4177 18
4304 20733 2788 12
4293 20815 30512 131
4258 20616 6106 26
4218 21770 5453 23
4208 20854 49194 207
4198 20841 10481 44
4181 21037 21524 90
4125 20855 14302 59
4027 21043 46932 189
4014 21214 21177 85
4008 20662 2994 12
3976 21204 21628 86
3954 21716 5311 21
3917 20850 51568 202
3858 21613 17109 66
3855 21209 28015 108
3842 20677 2603 10
3837 21793 10163 39
3817 20817 36681 140
3789 21216 31409 119
3785 20678 12418 47
3774 20852 46904 177
3770 21217 34487 130
3717 20882 13450 50
3631 21158 20929 76
3592 20832 26448 95
3565 21046 15988 57
3521 21040 24424 86
3520 20637 5682 20
3503 21221 43110 151
3499 20871 20008 70
3405 21144 35240 120
3356 21226 6257 21
3355 21030 25637 86
3326 21114 26759 89
3307 21014 35681 118
3293 21044 44034 145
3251 21875 6460 21
3220 21738 3416 11
3181 20878 64126 204
3159 21643 6015 19
3141 21774 12734 40
3094 20640 10018 31
3093 21201 17136 53
3022 21784 38390 116
3000 20634 7334 22
2972 20639 15139 45
2957 21108 18938 56
2947 21750 3732 11
2905 21085 16177 47
2856 20664 3501 10
2845 21122 60461 172
2832 21029 10595 30
2818 21502 42583 120
2698 21713 10379 28
2688 20816 16367 44
2688 21755 5581 15
2685 21286 20483 55
2618 21655 4966 13
2596 20714 4622 12
2592 21236 38573 100
2590 21034 3475 9
2570 20837 6225 16
2558 21093 37917 97
2546 21219 9427 24
2531 21863 4741 12
2489 21212 33342 83
2489 21811 23701 59
2457 21409 20352 50
2453 21104 5300 13
2428 21146 28006 68
2423 20736 9491 23
2421 20653 23546 57
2380 20732 9664 23
2365 21629 9726 23
2319 21776 5607 13
2315 20754 6910 16
2312 21113 33736 78
2309 21853 11693 27
2306 21797 8672 20
2249 21788 11563 26
2239 21758 4912 11
2207 21619 5891 13
2195 21727 6833 15
2156 21639 4639 10
2055 21740 61803 127
2048 21617 10741 22
2046 21601 23458 48
2034 21087 5407 11
1978 21084 7583 15
1963 21787 10186 20
1941 21128 14425 28
1935 20833 7750 15
1919 21638 5210 10
1915 21161 5221 10
1884 21817 4777 9
1859 21102 11299 21
1841 20659 23358 43
1816 21163 7158 13
1779 21211 16299 29
1773 21783 9022 16
1767 21009 29997 53
1758 21001 24453 43
1740 20657 18963 33
1715 21921 44896 77
1692 21154 5911 10
1667 21017 6597 11
1644 21754 6689 11
1644 21015 29192 48
1627 21742 33180 54
1614 21074 14872 24
1571 21047 12096 19
1537 21042 40980 63
1486 20685 6731 10
1433 21048 10465 15
1428 21904 7005 10
1389 20636 11523 16
1375 21666 12363 17
1356 21901 17698 24
1341 21131 7456 10
1312 21842 10669 14
1299 21795 9236 12
1277 20650 14096 18
1195 21532 15062 18
1187 21035 8423 10
1117 21210 15213 17
1105 21078 18097 20
971 20755 10297 10
961 20619 13533 13
894 21769 11189 10

I live in Berwyn Heights, zip 20740. I have put a double star '**' next to our zip and a single star '*' for the zip codes that share a boundary with us. You can tell that we are waiting to be overwhelmed. Our neighbors are worse than New Jersey and New York.
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Old 05-13-2020, 07:15 PM   #562
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I hope that I haven't overwhelmed you with this information. It's just that nobody reports it, just number of cases and no context in terms of population size.

Several other notes from my analyses of the situation.

Latinos are carrying this infection in Maryland. Their increase in total cases (by percent) is about double that for whites and blacks (which is usually very close to identical.) Unfortunately, I can verify that this makes sense because we live in a heavily latino area (the terrible zip codes are, I believe, latino majority) and we see/hear them with their parties, walking in groups of multiple families together, and hear them racing in the streets. My wife (who is from Mexico) feels embarrassed by their behavior. Today the number of cases for latinos passed the number of cases for whites in the state for the first time, in spite of the fact that their population is only about one fifth of that of the whites.

Second, it appears that the states in our "corridor" (all the top states with only one interloper, i.e., Mass., Conn., Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and D.C.) along with quite a number of other states, are almost not reporting the recovereds. A very rough calculation extrapolating from infections and recoveries in Germany (which hasn't had much reinfection) seems to imply that the actual number of "active cases" should be at most half the total number of cases. This is based on case numbers by date both for Germany and for the states in question. I hope to run a better regression analysis in the next few days.

Note: I ranked the states by reported active cases over population, a stat that I haven't seen anybody give. I am trying to answer the question, if I see someone in the street, what is the chance that they are currently infected?
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I hope that I haven't overwhelmed you with this information. It's just that nobody reports it, just number of cases and no context in terms of population size.



Several other notes from my analyses of the situation.



Latinos are carrying this infection in Maryland. Their increase in total cases (by percent) is about double that for whites and blacks (which is usually very close to identical.) Unfortunately, I can verify that this makes sense because we live in a heavily latino area (the terrible zip codes are, I believe, latino majority) and we see/hear them with their parties, walking in groups of multiple families together, and hear them racing in the streets. My wife (who is from Mexico) feels embarrassed by their behavior. Today the number of cases for latinos passed the number of cases for whites in the state for the first time, in spite of the fact that their population is only about one fifth of that of the whites.



Second, it appears that the states in our "corridor" (all the top states with only one interloper, i.e., Mass., Conn., Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and D.C.) along with quite a number of other states, are almost not reporting the recovereds. A very rough calculation extrapolating from infections and recoveries in Germany (which hasn't had much reinfection) seems to imply that the actual number of "active cases" should be at most half the total number of cases. This is based on case numbers by date both for Germany and for the states in question. I hope to run a better regression analysis in the next few days.



Note: I ranked the states by reported active cases over population, a stat that I haven't seen anybody give. I am trying to answer the question, if I see someone in the street, what is the chance that they are currently infected?
These stats are readily available with corresponding graphs on marylands site along with the worldometer has some pretty extensive numbers. You put a lot of work in to it, but you need to put it in useful form, ie columns with trendlines or exploded pie charts.



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These are NOT available on the state website or the Coronavirus stats page from Worldometer.

In particular, the zip code information for the state site report the number of cases, not the proportion of the population that is infected (i.e. cases per million). For example, there may be two zip codes that have 100 cases. The state site reports that. But one zip may have 1,000 people in it and the other 40,000. In the first, 10% of the people have it, but in the second only 0.25% have it. This is NOT reported on the state site, and I feel it is a much more important stat than what they give. The same holds for the county information. For the zip codes, for example, the population sizes in Maryland vary from 10 to 70,174. Needless to say, I don't expect that the zip code with 10 people will have 9 cases any time soon. (They also don't report nursing home cases by zip, and I don't feel like having to sort it all out. There was an outlying zip code (high infection rate and not in P.G.) and I investigated. It turned out that 70% of their cases at that time were due to an infected nursing home in the zip code.) About 1/4 of all cases in Maryland are due to infections of residents or staff of elder care facilities. (Most of these are of the residents.) I have not adjusted for these in ranking counties as I don't have time. (I have no need to go into nursing homes right now, so infections in the residents shouldn't impact my chance of getting the virus if I go to that area and avoid the nursing homes.)

Second: Worldometer has no reporting of active cases per million, only total cases per million. Your chance of getting infected in a given place have to do with ACTIVE cases per million, not TOTAL cases per million. If they're dead or recovered they won't infect you (unless it's a place like Mexico which declares them cured after about 4 days.)

So I did these stats because they are NOT available from the Maryland website. I also have not reported on the stats I have from the Worldometer site, which, once again, fails to report active cases per (million) population, only TOTAL cases per (million) population.

I work from the data provided by these 2 sites and some population information I got from other places (or backed into for the Worldometer site, using their info on total cases and total cases per million) and update (for my family) daily, trying to figure out the safest places to shop for food and deposit checks to the bank.

As far as fixing the format, I've already got my hands full trying to teach my 6 kids who are at home all day, as well as trying to get back in shape (lose 30 lbs.) and figuring out how to get errands done living in the middle of a disaster zone, with 6 of the worst 12 zip codes in Maryland as our neighbors. (I'm 63 and a half and so have to be very careful.)
As far as formatting, while I have a doctorate in Computer Science and have won an international math competition, I am very much on the theoretical side of things and don't know how to make things look pretty quickly. (My 18-year-old could, as he is very good at javascript, but I can never seem to get him to do what I ask. Go figure!)

Anyway, I put this info up so people could make informed decisions on where to avoid right now, and because this info is not readily available. (I have better things to do than copy what others have done.)

Finally, I found that while the Worldometer site reports what the states say are the active cases, a lot of the "active" cases should now be recovered. So I reported my estimate about the number of active cases, based on Germany's example, since Germany seems to both (1) declare people recovered, and (2) not have had a recurrence due to people being declared recovered too quickly. The very quick back-of-the-envelope estimate is that the number of active cases should be about half the number of total cases for all the states from Massachusetts down to D.C. (Mass, RI, Conn, NY, NJ, Pa, Del, Md, DC) based on the historical progression of the number of cases. Currently, Maryland is reporting 88% of their total cases as being "active" cases. This is a sham. (Since none of the definitions of "active" case are consistent with the reported numbers, I should probably report this number as "probable active cases", whereas the state's numbers may be appropriately dubbed, "number of people who have been infected who have a non-zero (albeit small) chance of being infectious".)

Interestingly, in terms of "active cases per population", we get a different list of worst states than "total cases per population".
On the left is the (beginning of the) order for Worldometer by total cases/million and on the right is active cases/million (statistic not offered on Worldometer)
(1) New York ; (1)New Jersey !
(2) New Jersey ; (2) New York
(3) Massachusetts ; (3) Rhode Island
(4) Rhode Island ; (4) Connecticut
(5) Connecticut ; (5) DC
(6) DC ; (6) Massachusetts
(7) Delaware ; (7) Illinois
(8) Louisiana (26th on other side) ; (8) Maryland
(9) Illinois ; (9) Nebraska (13 on other side)
(10) Maryland ; (10) Pennsylvania
(11) Pennsylvania ; (11) Delaware

Note that Louisiana goes from the Worldometer total cases per million (population) of
6,782 to (Worldometer unavailable) active cases per million of 1,521.
Many countries also move dramatically once we categorize by active cases/million as opposed to total cases/million.

The US is 5th in active cases per million (behind San Marino, Vatican, Qatar, and Singapore) and the is the 3rd worst with population over a million. Here are a few countries with reported total cases per million and active cases per million (not reported)
US: 4,255 vs. 3,107
Belgium: 4,640 vs. 2,699
Andorra: 9,810 vs. 1,838
France: 2,730 vs. 1,431
Italy: 3,659 vs. 1,344
Spain: 5,764 vs. 1,329
Ireland: 4,707 vs. 940
Luxembourg: 6,221 vs. 291
Germany: 2,067 vs. 218
Austria: 1,772 vs. 132
Iceland: 5,278 vs. 44

Note that 6 of these are worse than the US in total cases per population, but none is worse in active cases per population.

Anyway, if this isn't helping anybody I don't need to put it up. But if you want some stats I may be able to get them. I'll at least try to get a better estimate of the actual "infective" cases for Maryland if I have time.
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again, your brick wall of text makes takeaways from it fairly useless. I am not even sure what you are trying to say. Two questions, hopefully without blocks of texts in your answers:
  • Is your point that the situation is more dire, or less dire than the generally presented numbers indicate.
  • What are you presenting as the cause for the difference in the numbers
Here is the link for Md's dashboard, with a lot of useful numbers:
https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/


I know the point you are trying to get across must be important to you, and I am just trying to understand what it is.
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Reduced as briefly as possible (sort of;-) (I have a hard time keeping the scientist in me under control.)

(1) Avoid PG in general if possible. Our infection rates have been astronomical. I give info by zip so if you need to go somewhere you know where it is particularly bad. For example, near the University of Maryland (where I live) we live in a small bubble (one zip code) of "reasonableness" (5 per thousand) in the middle of almost all the worst areas of the state (up to 28 per thousand, worse than any state or country in the world.) So the voluminous zip code info is to help people understand in more detail where to avoid.

Both county and zip info are reported in cases per million, the same as Worldometer. So PG has passed 11 cases per thousand. (For cases per thousand, take the first column and divide by 1,000).

(2) Not stated above. For the moment, especially avoid latinos that you don't know. They are one of the main reasons that the state's infection rate has not stabilized. While the numbers from yesterday were outliers (2 new white cases, 30 black, 209 latino), today's increase fits with the usual: 1.6+/-0.1% new cases for whites/blacks (i.e. lockstep) and 5.1% latino (i.e. 2 to 3 times the white/black rate). We live in a heavily latino area and we see groups of them frequently ignoring all the advice and walking in large groups and having parties (and forget the masks). (Mostly young*) latinos now constitute more cases than whites even though their population in the state is 1/5th of the white population. From the conversations that my (Mexican) wife has with her sister in Mexico, the Mexican people (there) are much more responsible (in spite of their president) than the latinos here. (He's telling them "just live your daily lives; the epidemic will just take care of itself"; in response, the individual neighborhoods and states are taking action. But he's cooking the books on the epidemic anyways.**)

(3) The state, along with a lot of others, pretty much never reports recoveries. Supposedly about 88% of the people who have ever gotten the virus here are still considered "active cases". You can never have the curve go down if nobody is ever declared "recovered" unless you start murdering the people who have it. So, judging from what I saw from Germany's stats, I tried to do a "most conservative" case of what our stats would be if we followed their general trend line. (I chose them since they do report recoveries and their criterion is good since "recovereds" don't seem to generate much further infection.) So my back of the envelope calculation is as follows:

Active cases = total cases today - 0.8 * total cases 14 days ago.

This makes the assumption that
(1) All cases in the last 2 weeks are active, and
(2) 20% of the cases at least 14 days ago are still lingering.

These assumptions are quite conservative but generate active case counts that are about half of what the state is reporting.
(For point (2) above the active case counts would be
black: 5,071 cases; white: 3,531; latino: 4,943)

Hopefully this isn't too long a read. I'm (overly) comfortable with numbers, and don't know when to stop sometimes.

*"Mostly young" is derived from the fact that the death rate for latinos is much lower than for other groups.

**Look at the Worldometer report. For Mexico, the number of "active cases" has stayed around 8,000 for a while, but they're getting about 2,000 new cases per day, so supposedly everybody "recovers" (or dies) in 4 days, and those few "active cases" are generating new cases at a rate of 25% per day!
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/wisco...-at-home-order

Wisconsin Bars Flooded With Patrons Hours After State Supreme Court Strikes Down Stay-At-Home Order

Complete retard level. This is why I’m not gonna be able to drink at a bar or brewery for awhile because of folks like this practicing pure stupidity instead Social distancing. Why I can’t have nice things
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Complete retard level. This is why I’m not gonna be able to drink at a bar or brewery for awhile because of folks like this practicing pure stupidity instead Social distancing. Why I can’t have nice things
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Mike, I guess as you are a scientist, I am asking what hypothesis you are stating. If I read it right then these would be how I would state your hypotheses:

#1 PG County has the largest section of the outbreak, and should be avoided.

#2 Latinos in Md have been less willing to follow the stay at home order as it is meant to be followed, and therefore non-Latinos should avoid contact with Latinos to reduce the chance of community spread from that specific group.

#3 The Actual Recovered numbers are significantly higher than the reported based on the number of new cases and assuming a 14 to 21 day infection time.

If those are your hypotheses, I generally agree with 1 and 3. Although I think #1 is skewed by the major outbreaks in nursing homes in PG and Riderwood in Montgomery which is actually right on the border of PG if you could somehow pull out those flash points that happened early on, you might see a different statistical variance. But I don't really think that is possible.

I think you are reading the data from number 2 backwards though. I do believe it is significant that the Latino population is less likely to abide by the stay at home order (I admit this is from my walks in the park and the numbers of groups that I see that would be considered larger that 10 or not practicing social distancing so it is not a scientific number). But if we accept the untested assumption that Latinos are less likely to abide by the order, the expected numbers would be an expected higher infection and mortality rate. We see just the opposite in Md. Using your numbers (black: 5,071 cases; white: 3,531; latino: 4,943) Latino and Black active cases are basically equivalent and given the ethnic makeup of PG county, that is not completely shocking. In fact the low number of deaths in the Latino group (black:708; white: 731; latino: 137) should actually have us looking at what factors they have incorporated communally that may have a better effectiveness then stay at home orders alone.
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