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Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

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Old 09-12-2015, 09:05 PM   #226
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So they didn't take land in Crimea or Georgia? Iran certainly wants northern Iraq land and would gladly partition northern Iraq and Syria.
he did want land in georgia and crimea, he doesn't in syria. it's far away and an obvious headache. they already had their own misadventures in afghanistan where jihadii's came from far and wide, and they're already up to ~5k deaths in crimea last i heard. they wanted those parts of georgia and the ukraine because they feel those people are russians and they've stated that they consider themselves responsible for all native russian speakers. their aims in syria and with iran are different than the ukraine.

if they wanted to rule syria, they could just invade it, and then they'd have the entire burden of fighting isis, which wouldn't be cheap or popular back home.
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Old 09-19-2015, 04:35 PM   #227
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

Kerry: Russia's deployment of fighter jets disturbing | Washington Examiner
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:14 PM   #228
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Kerry needs to get punched in his fucking face because him and the administration has let this happen. Fuck Kerry
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:20 PM   #229
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

The last few lines pretty much...sum it up


After years of calls for Assad's removal, Kerry acknowledged this softening by saying that "we're not being doctrinaire about the specific date or time" that Assad must be removed.

"We're open," he noted, adding that Assad does not need to leave "on day one, or month one, or whatever."
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:29 PM   #230
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

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The last few lines pretty much...sum it up


After years of calls for Assad's removal, Kerry acknowledged this softening by saying that "we're not being doctrinaire about the specific date or time" that Assad must be removed.

"We're open," he noted, adding that Assad does not need to leave "on day one, or month one, or whatever."
Don't worry, Russia is just being friendly.

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Amazing how aggressive Russian has been...equally amazing is our weak response allowing them to do whatever to whomever they want

Found it interesting Russia has announced they will be stepping up and taking in Syrian refugees and ate constructing camps and are sending humanitarian aid to parts of Syria. vSo basically they are beating us to the punch in every aspect of the Syrian crisis.
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10 maps that explain Russia's strategy - Business Insider

I found this article very interesting. It lays out in very clear terms the role that Ukraine/Russian geography plays and the dynamics of Russian geography. In particular was one pair of maps that showed the boundary of the German advance in 1942:


vs the current map if Ukraine is considered to be unfriendly to Russia:



Basically you could see a Russian mindset that they have lost nearly as much over the last 20 years as Germany took in 1942.
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