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Old 03-04-2014, 10:17 AM   #46
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

That's a billion wasted dollars.
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Old 03-04-2014, 10:18 AM   #47
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Hey, what's a billion dollars theses days. You can spend that on a website that doesn't work!
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:01 PM   #48
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Viktor Yanukovych looks less and less like the legitimate President of Ukraine, to me. When the next elections happen, what will Putin do if a majority of Crimeans vote against the way the western Ukraine does?
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:21 PM   #49
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Hey, what's a billion dollars theses days. You can spend that on a website that doesn't work!
...or give it to old rich white guys so it can trickle down.
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:25 PM   #50
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

‘We control everything’: Crimea breaks ties with Ukraine - The Globe and Mail


LOL. Nobody believe this bullshit propaganda coming out of Crimea.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:23 PM   #51
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That's a billion wasted dollars.
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The compassion on this board is inspiring.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:02 PM   #52
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The compassion on this board is inspiring.
It has nothing to do with compassion.
If Putin decides to steamroll The Ukraine then that billion may well have been paintball guns we gave them.
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Old 03-05-2014, 06:28 AM   #53
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Crimeas new Prime Minister says he is taking control of all military forces and government departments in the territory, declaring an official break with Kiev.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:52 AM   #54
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...or give it to old rich white guys so it can trickle down.
At least it would stay in our own country.


Your brainwashed anti-rich posts are getting tiring.


That last one even had racist overtones. The former hippie, still pot-smoking colleges professors everywhere are proud of you.
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

i agree with NCskins, and im not anti rich...im pro middle class
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Old 03-05-2014, 10:55 AM   #56
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

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It has nothing to do with compassion.
If Putin decides to steamroll The Ukraine then that billion may well have been paintball guns we gave them.
It's not going to happen, but I personally doubt the Russian Army would steamroll the Ukranian army. In the Georgia episode, the Georgians shot down 20 of the Russians planes. I saw an infographic the other day that showed the comparable forces in the region, and Ukraine was at around a 3-1 disadvantage. That might mean Russia would win, but I think it would be very costly. I am personally a little surprised, and very glad, from a not wanting bloodshed point of view, that the Ukrainian government didn't respond with force.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:05 AM   #57
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^^^ i agree with this
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:19 AM   #58
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

A couple of Ukrainian barracks had their weapons confiscated by the first wave of Russian Airborne, there won't be too much of a fight.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:31 AM   #59
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

Putin is becoming a big pain but I cant help but think that all our proxy wars with former USSR nations that border current Russia (attempting nato missile defense system in Poland and Turkey, steering Ukraine pro EU/West, totally destabilizing Iraq, sanctioning Iran) is the reason.

We have effed with Russia repeatedly with countries right at their door step and Putin is right to say the US sits across the pond and treats other countries like lab rats in political experiments.

I despise Putin but we are serious international jerks.

I also think Putin was very dumb to act so unilaterally and aggressively and the US and EU can really capitalize on this opportunity. No one is standing with Russia on this.

Russian economy has lost over 75 billion on Monday alone.

USA can now justify some of their clandestine political interference.
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A couple of Ukrainian barracks had their weapons confiscated by the first wave of Russian Airborne, there won't be too much of a fight.
The first wave Russia had complete surprise. If they tried to fight a ground war I doubt very seriously that they would have any kind of air superiority and claiming and holding ground would be difficult. BUT that doesn't mean at this point Ukraine could re-take Crimea without a LOT of bloodshed. I think that is lost to them now, and economically that is a major blow.
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