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Old 12-05-2019, 01:32 PM   #16
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Re: Packers Pre Game Thread

I am not a fan of BA, but if the Skins were to shock GB, who is in the thick of the playoff hunt, there would have to be some credibility to his "we are close" claim.

I truly believe Gruden had checked out before the season and the team with him. Had DS cleaned house last offseason the team would have been vastly better off!

As for the game, ARodgers win this by shredding Manusky's D and Guice/AP have combined 160 yds.

36-28 GB wins

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Old 12-05-2019, 01:41 PM   #17
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Green Bay gets out to a hot start and unlike Carolina, finishes the job.

31-13 GB.

I also agree, if we win this game Dan seriously starts drinking the "we're close" koolaid.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:42 PM   #18
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I felt Manusky had his best game this year. Big difference in the QB's from last week to this week.

It baffles me that there are still terrible breakdowns in the secondary at this point of the season. Had Allen made a simple easy read last weeks game could have gone into OT. What is it with these guys and communicating?

A moral victory is important. I want a competitive game where these young guys are playing well. DH needs more improvement, get #17 more involved, Guice gets 20 carries. Get #15 the ball in space, keep the pass rush coming.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:46 PM   #19
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I felt Manusky had his best game this year. Big difference in the QB's from last week to this week.

It baffles me that there are still terrible breakdowns in the secondary at this point of the season. Had Allen made a simple easy read last weeks game could have gone into OT. What is it with these guys and communicating?

A moral victory is important. I want a competitive game where these young guys are playing well. DH needs more improvement, get #17 more involved, Guice gets 20 carries. Get #15 the ball in space, keep the pass rush coming.
Manusky had his best game up until the last two drives.

Is there any evidence on any team film from any era where the prevent defense actually ended a last minute desperation drive? He should've abandoned that shit after the td.
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Old 12-05-2019, 01:59 PM   #20
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"We are close" narrative becomes louder if we shock the world

Danny and Bruce will be popping champagne with a win FFS




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Old 12-05-2019, 02:05 PM   #21
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I am not a fan of BA, but if the Skins were to shock GB, who is in the thick of the playoff hunt, there would have to be some credibility to his "we are close" claim.

I truly believe Gruden had checked out before the season and the team with him. Had DS cleaned house last offseason the team would have been vastly better off!

As for the game, ARodgers win this by shredding Manusky's D and Guice/AP have combined 160 yds.

36-28 GB wins

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Strongly disagree on that.

This FO and coaching staff have had way too many opportunities to be effective, Manusky has proven again and again he just CAN'T properly coach nor call a defense, Callahan is not a good motivator and is not the future, and we won't attract anyone decent to work under BA's orders.

I don't care if they beat the Packers by 14. In fact i'd take it as another proof that they need to go: the roster is good enough to compete but we won't SUSTAIN any success with them running the show.

But if they do you know how they're gonna spin it like dysfunction was all Jay's fault and it simply took them a couple of games to get it right...
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:06 PM   #22
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Manusky had his best game up until the last two drives.

Is there any evidence on any team film from any era where the prevent defense actually ended a last minute desperation drive? He should've abandoned that shit after the td.
This. He can't coach properly for a full game. Let alone a full season.
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:12 PM   #23
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Manusky had his best game up until the last two drives.

Is there any evidence on any team film from any era where the prevent defense actually ended a last minute desperation drive? He should've abandoned that shit after the td.
When the QB is Kirk Cousins it seems to work quite well!
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Old 12-05-2019, 02:23 PM   #24
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Strongly disagree on that.



This FO and coaching staff have had way too many opportunities to be effective, Manusky has proven again and again he just CAN'T properly coach nor call a defense, Callahan is not a good motivator and is not the future, and we won't attract anyone decent to work under BA's orders.



I don't care if they beat the Packers by 14. In fact i'd take it as another proof that they need to go: the roster is good enough to compete but we won't SUSTAIN any success with them running the show.



But if they do you know how they're gonna spin it like dysfunction was all Jay's fault and it simply took them a couple of games to get it right...
I think the coaching staff is gone, certainly Manusky. By being close, i was solely referring to player talent.

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Old 12-05-2019, 02:26 PM   #25
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I think the coaching staff is gone, certainly Manusky. By being close, i was solely referring to player talent.

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Oh then I completely agree. Roster talent is quite exciting IMO. Just don't want the FO to be able to use it to their advantage.

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Old 12-05-2019, 02:50 PM   #26
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If we beat Green Bay, expect to see and hear from Bruce Allen, he will want his credit for making it happen.
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Old 12-05-2019, 04:09 PM   #27
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I think we got lucky with the Panthers O line being horrible at pass pro and their D line being injured. I dont see us getting pressure on 4 or 5 man rushes ... but who knows, honestly i have zero clue on how good or healthy the packers O line is.

I think A-Aron has a field day with our LBs trying to drop back into coverage and they basically just exploit/dictate matchups on our LBs and target it every single time. I think Moreland/Moreau will be picked on heavily as well.

I wonder what they do when Collins drops down into the box. I think teams have to start accounting for that now when he drops down. If you have a screen or something, I think you need to check out of it now.
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Old 12-06-2019, 10:58 AM   #28
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Manusky had his best game up until the last two drives.

Is there any evidence on any team film from any era where the prevent defense actually ended a last minute desperation drive? He should've abandoned that shit after the td.
I agree but its not like the Redskins are the only team to use prevent.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:29 AM   #29
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Manusky had his best game up until the last two drives.

Is there any evidence on any team film from any era where the prevent defense actually ended a last minute desperation drive? He should've abandoned that shit after the td.
IMO that last TD by Allen shows that the NFL needs to change the rules about protecting QBs. Payne had gotten a crappy penalty for hitting Allen while he was sliding, and during that TD clearly players hesitated because of that.

I think QBs should be protected within the first 5 yards, after that, they should be fair game IMO.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:53 AM   #30
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I hope they win, if for nothing else, so all the talking heads can continue to bash this terrible division, since the Redskins would still be in the hunt in week 14 at 4-9. Unbelievable.

Rodgers is no Allen or Driskel though, and I'm not sold that the D has magically turned a corner. We'll see...

I'll go out on a limb and say 26-23 Skins.
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