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View Poll Results: What is your way too early draft grade for the '21 WFT class?
A 14 26.42%
B 32 60.38%
C 5 9.43%
D 2 3.77%
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Old 05-03-2021, 10:19 AM   #1
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Post draft breakdown

This should be the final draft related thread for 2021 lol

Washington gets good grades for their 2021 draft class

I just went back and listened to Greg Cosell on the Ross Tucker podcast break down the LB group coming into this draft and he LOVED Davis, said he has elite traits.
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Old 05-03-2021, 10:45 AM   #2
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Re: Post draft breakdown

Overall the lowest grade I've seen across any platform is a B.

I think we finally have a great group running the show folks. This team with its new identity and all that will gain more fans now.
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Old 05-03-2021, 10:49 AM   #3
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Re: Post draft breakdown

My biggest head scratcher is the CB from Minnesota, I thought there were better options.

I’ve heard scouting reports say he could play single high safety. Versatility is the big thing.

After we took the WR from UNC, this pick was much less of an issue from value standpoint as that was a steal.

Another reach to me was the TE from Boise state, but trusting the coaching staff as Logan Thomas exceeded everyone’s expectations not only here but across the league.

Cosmi, Davis, Brown, Toney were great picks. I think adding RB Patterson was big time, that was icing on the cake cause I think he will make the team if he can prove he can catch out the backfield.
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Old 05-03-2021, 04:12 PM   #4
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My biggest head scratcher is the CB from Minnesota, I thought there were better options.

I’ve heard scouting reports say he could play single high safety. Versatility is the big thing.

After we took the WR from UNC, this pick was much less of an issue from value standpoint as that was a steal.

Another reach to me was the TE from Boise state, but trusting the coaching staff as Logan Thomas exceeded everyone’s expectations not only here but across the league.

Cosmi, Davis, Brown, Toney were great picks. I think adding RB Patterson was big time, that was icing on the cake cause I think he will make the team if he can prove he can catch out the backfield.

Ditto your comments on St. Juste. I suppose his versatility and length made him attractive to draft. If memory serves, he was a senior bowl participant too, so maybe extra eyes on him made him a get for the staff.


I like the TE pick. The blocking part of TE is always the hardest to develop with rookies. The fact that he has that part down is a plus, when combined with what we have in Thomas ... and the potential in Reyes.


I think one of Bradley-King or Toney will make the team ... with the other sticking on the practice squad. But the picks are worth it late.


I gave the draft a B.

My biggest worry is in our first round pick. He SHOULD be fantastic. He has the right attitude, and work ethic, and is very athletic. He showed flashes of brilliance in his one year of starting. For this pick to be justified, he needs to provide consistent impact from day 1.

If he does ... I change the grade to an A.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:10 AM   #5
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Re: Post draft breakdown

Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra

We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve.

Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally.

Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA.

I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:21 AM   #6
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Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra

We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve.

Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally.

Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA.

I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats
I suppose with so much uncertainty with evaluations and health this year they went with the find team first football players plan, cannot really condemn them for that though I agree a blocking tight end in the 4th seems a bit of a reach
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:33 PM   #7
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Insert the "you cant grade a draft until 3 years later" mantra

We targeted physical abilities over production it seems. Davis, Cosmi, St Juste, Brown, Forrest all seem to be at the top end of athleticism. We are banking on them being able to be coached up and continue to improve.

Im somewhat left with the impression we just drafted our board vs reacting to how the draft played out. Seems like we drafted guys who RR interviewed with personally.

Especially that 4R on a blocking TE that by all looks was a pretty big reach. But he interviewed with RR personally. They have a good conversation ... suddenly we are picking him in the 4th when he was projected to be a 6th or UDFA.

I feel like the personal interviews steered our decisions vs being reactive to the board and who is dropping etc. I dont think we went BPA .. or our board favors physical stats vs film/playing stats
You may be right on both points (favoring physical potential vs college production, and favoring guys they knew and/or had talked to)... and I'm perfectly fine with it !

I actually like the fact that RR and JDR made sure they were drafting good fits for this team, both as players and characters !
I don't think it ended up being real reaches, at least early on (and does anybody on earth really knows if a 5th/6th/7th round was a reach ?).

We got some BPA/close to BPA players that filled key needs early on, we added some depth where we needed it later on... Until it doesn't pan out, I don't see any reason to complain.
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Re: Post draft breakdown

I had my breakdown during the draft

Makes me smile to see so many talking heads and internet experts think they know more than RR and JDR when it come to playing, coaching and drafting linebackers.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:37 AM   #9
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Re: Post draft breakdown

I have us a 'B' only because there were a couple of players we missed on that I would have liked to get when available like JOK, CB Elijah Molden, TE Tommy Trembel, LB Jabril Cox and WR Jaelon Darden who all slid further than they should have...but I am happy that Rivera had a plan and stuck to it. He watched the tape, so I trust him.


Well, you can't complain with the approach, we filled nearly every need. LB and LT were the most urgent positions and they were filled with potential stars in the league.



LB - Biggest need, potentially GREAT player picked
LT - Starter-quality player. The position is finally fixed post-Trent Williams.
CB - We have 2 solid starters already but lacked depth and a impact slot CB. Got one.
WR - Steal of our draft, made a good WR group one of the deeper in the NFL
TE - Big need for a backup TE. We took a solid, athletic blocking TE that will have a role.
S - Solid depth pick.
LS - We needed one and got one of the best available who could be here 15 years like Sundberg, Better to draft a talented one than look for a re-tread FA.
DE -If Kerrigan's not coming back, we need depth. Took two with good potential.
WR - Let's see what this last pick can do on special teams, we still need an improvement in the return game over Sims, Jr. who won't be making this team with all of the WR depth we have.
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:40 PM   #10
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I have us a 'B' only because there were a couple of players we missed on that I would have liked to get when available like JOK, CB Elijah Molden, TE Tommy Trembel, LB Jabril Cox and WR Jaelon Darden who all slid further than they should have...but I am happy that Rivera had a plan and stuck to it. He watched the tape, so I trust him.


Well, you can't complain with the approach, we filled nearly every need. LB and LT were the most urgent positions and they were filled with potential stars in the league.



LB - Biggest need, potentially GREAT player picked
LT - Starter-quality player. The position is finally fixed post-Trent Williams.
CB - We have 2 solid starters already but lacked depth and a impact slot CB. Got one.
WR - Steal of our draft, made a good WR group one of the deeper in the NFL
TE - Big need for a backup TE. We took a solid, athletic blocking TE that will have a role.
S - Solid depth pick.
LS - We needed one and got one of the best available who could be here 15 years like Sundberg, Better to draft a talented one than look for a re-tread FA.
DE -If Kerrigan's not coming back, we need depth. Took two with good potential.
WR - Let's see what this last pick can do on special teams, we still need an improvement in the return game over Sims, Jr. who won't be making this team with all of the WR depth we have.
Agree overall with your post.

Just to nitpick, I really don't get the thing with JOK. We needed a real do it all/stuff the run LB, we got an athletic stud that can do that, and (not saying you, but you mentioned him) we're gonna complain about not drafting a small hybrid LB that wasn't selected by anybody until late in the 2nd ? Don't get it.
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Agree overall with your post.

Just to nitpick, I really don't get the thing with JOK. We needed a real do it all/stuff the run LB, we got an athletic stud that can do that, and (not saying you, but you mentioned him) we're gonna complain about not drafting a small hybrid LB that wasn't selected by anybody until late in the 2nd ? Don't get it.
Yeah, can we put the JOK thing to rest already. He wasn't high (1st round talent) on a lot of boards obviously, including WFTs. He was the 23rd defensive player picked. Davis is a better fit, and will likely be an absolute beast behind this defensive front. Not sure what there is to complain about there.
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Old 05-04-2021, 02:51 PM   #12
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Yeah, can we put the JOK thing to rest already. He wasn't high (1st round talent) on a lot of boards obviously, including WFTs. He was the 23rd defensive player picked. Davis is a better fit, and will likely be an absolute beast behind this defensive front. Not sure what there is to complain about there.
There was a heart issue that scared people off. Doctors cleared him, but still is a lingering question of if it will become an issue.
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No, Cheeseman, as much as we love you...you can't.





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There was a heart issue that scared people off. Doctors cleared him, but still is a lingering question of if it will become an issue.
Yeah, I did see that today. Probably was a a combination of health/talent/fit for most clubs that passed on him.
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:38 AM   #15
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Re: Post draft breakdown

I gave them a B in the poll. Overall, this grade comes down to trust. Do you trust that RR and JDR can draft the defensive players that will fit and possibly excel. Yes, so I think the defensive side gets an A because the athleticism combined with fit should enable many to be depth or better for years to come. On the offensive side, my trust in RR and Turner is not as high. I think they are still reaching and trying to find the identity that will work, so I have much less confidence in that side of the ball, and thus the B/C grade for offense. Hopefully when it all comes together, the team will see the value across the board.
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