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Old 11-26-2018, 10:56 AM   #46
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There is nothing I despise more than seeing flags fly at will during the last 4 minutes of a one-score game. It means the officiating could decide the outcome. And that should be decided on the field of play.

So if we see a few 'non-calls' of some borderline offenses, I am okay with that as long as the players are allowed to play & decide the games outcome.

The more egregious, should of course be flagged always.

But in those last 4 minutes of play, it is not uncommon to see a DB get away with a brief/minor hold that he was flagged for in the 2nd quarter.

Anyone see the Giants/Eagles Sunday? When OBJ was held not once but TWICE on the same play? And no call was made.
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Old 11-26-2018, 01:53 PM   #47
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I'm not a guy who jumps all over the refs but the two kicks got me thinking. Redskins missed the extra point which looked good. The camera angles they showed were not any help. I can't remember if it was an extra point or FG by Dallas that was also very close. Some how for the Dallas kick they had a camera angle right behind the goal post. Where was that angle when the Skins kicked. I know it would not have changed anything but seems like they were hiding something.
For kicks above the uprights, if any part of the ball is outside of the goal posts, the kick is no good. The entire ball must pass between both uprights.

And it does not matter the camera angle on field goals....it is a not a revue-able play.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:06 PM   #48
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The ref is right there looking straight up under the post, I didn't have a problem with the call
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:18 PM   #49
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There is nothing I despise more than seeing flags fly at will during the last 4 minutes of a one-score game. It means the officiating could decide the outcome. And that should be decided on the field of play.

So if we see a few 'non-calls' of some borderline offenses, I am okay with that as long as the players are allowed to play & decide the games outcome.

The more egregious, should of course be flagged always.

But in those last 4 minutes of play, it is not uncommon to see a DB get away with a brief/minor hold that he was flagged for in the 2nd quarter.

Anyone see the Giants/Eagles Sunday? When OBJ was held not once but TWICE on the same play? And no call was made.
If they're borderline calls, I understand. The issue is when it's an obvious offense that has to be called - especially if it's a personal foul call.
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There is nothing I despise more than seeing flags fly at will during the last 4 minutes of a one-score game. It means the officiating could decide the outcome. And that should be decided on the field of play.

So if we see a few 'non-calls' of some borderline offenses, I am okay with that as long as the players are allowed to play & decide the games outcome.

The more egregious, should of course be flagged always.

But in those last 4 minutes of play, it is not uncommon to see a DB get away with a brief/minor hold that he was flagged for in the 2nd quarter.

Anyone see the Giants/Eagles Sunday? When OBJ was held not once but TWICE on the same play? And no call was made.
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Old 11-27-2018, 10:58 AM   #51
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^ The missed PAT was from the usual TV angle right behind the posts. No idea what you're talking about. Can you post screenshots?
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Old 11-27-2018, 11:02 AM   #52
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There is nothing I despise more than seeing flags fly at will during the last 4 minutes of a one-score game. It means the officiating could decide the outcome. And that should be decided on the field of play.

So if we see a few 'non-calls' of some borderline offenses, I am okay with that as long as the players are allowed to play & decide the games outcome.

The more egregious, should of course be flagged always.

But in those last 4 minutes of play, it is not uncommon to see a DB get away with a brief/minor hold that he was flagged for in the 2nd quarter.

Anyone see the Giants/Eagles Sunday? When OBJ was held not once but TWICE on the same play? And no call was made.
I think this could be addressed by having any and all calls that could have a significant impact on the outcome of the game that are made in the final 5 minutes of the game reviewed by the officials in NYC, at their discretion. No plays would be non-reviewable within that window.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:57 AM   #53
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As you saw last night, again, never. Leagues a fucking joke.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:11 AM   #54
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NFL has a clear bias to the teams they want to succeed, Dallas is the #1 profit to the league and when they win games it makes for better ratings. There is no fucking way u can sit here and tell me the refs just didn't see the helmet to helmet penalty or the ridiculous holding calls on M Thomas. Yeah they won the game but the refs helped a ton.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:32 AM   #55
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NFL has a clear bias to the teams they want to succeed, Dallas is the #1 profit to the league and when they win games it makes for better ratings. There is no fucking way u can sit here and tell me the refs just didn't see the helmet to helmet penalty or the ridiculous holding calls on M Thomas. Yeah they won the game but the refs helped a ton.
Help me understand the logic.
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Dallas is the #1 profit to the league and when they win games it makes for better ratings.....
If there was any meat to this tell me why Dallas has been the most 'incredibly average' team since their last Super Bowl in 96? If what you allege were true, the Cowboys would be....well...the Patriots.

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There is no fucking way u can sit here and tell me the refs just didn't see the helmet to helmet penalty or the ridiculous holding calls on M Thomas. Yeah they won the game but the refs helped a ton.
Then explain why Dallas had twice as many penalties for twice as many yards as the Saints? New Orleans had 4 penalties, Dallas-8. Helmet-Helmet penalties usually get called on the field. If not, they are reviewed by the league at the conclusion of the league week. Teams send in their complaints on calls and the league reviews them. If a personal foul is substantiated in the review, the player is fined. Fines are handed down on Wednesdays. All I am saying here is if the officials don't get the call right on the field, the league normally gets it right on Tuesday.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:47 AM   #56
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NFL has a clear bias to the teams they want to succeed, Dallas is the #1 profit to the league and when they win games it makes for better ratings. There is no fucking way u can sit here and tell me the refs just didn't see the helmet to helmet penalty or the ridiculous holding calls on M Thomas. Yeah they won the game but the refs helped a ton.
Dallas is by far the most valuable franchise but the Skins are #5 on the list and for a long time #2. If there was a bias wouldn't it make sense to really make the rivalry between two of the most storied and valued franchises a marquee every year? I just don't buy it. If you ask me are they more likely to get a call by the refs from time to time? I won't argue but I just don't buy a league conspiracy.
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Dallas is by far the most valuable franchise but the Skins are #5 on the list and for a long time #2. If there was a bias wouldn't it make sense to really make the rivalry between two of the most storied and valued franchises a marquee every year? I just don't buy it. If you ask me are they more likely to get a call by the refs from time to time? I won't argue but I just don't buy a league conspiracy.
Nope because the league wants us to change our name, I know I sound like a whiner and making excuses but I'm seriously questioning it all now.
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Officiating all around sucks. It's not a team specific issue. Every team thinks there's a conspiracy against them. There's not.

Sit down and watch any game this weekend. Watch it objectively and you'll see missed calls happen to everyone. Sometimes does it seem like it's unbalanced against one team? Sure. But there's no league wide conspiracy against any one team.
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Nope because the league wants us to change our name, I know I sound like a whiner and making excuses but I'm seriously questioning it all now.
If the league wanted the name changed there are economically more viable ways then trying to alienate and drive a way the fan base of one of their most valuable teams through poor officiating and favoring their rival.
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Last night was atrocious. And after the cowgirls last two games, one against us, it's easy to see why ppl would claim bias. And I'm not opposing that view. When someone is touting better ratings I look at the bigger picture. They have been making the NFCE closer for about 3 weeks now. Include that Houston game which potentially Hopkins seals for us with a 37 or so yarder.... That shit was beyond a joke and a blatant middle finger from the league. As we're the calls/non calls last night. As for Sandjackass's argument about yards and calls - of course they wanna make the stat line look plausible when they give you the game sealing INT that hit the ground, amari Cooper's non catch and take away the Michael Thomas catch. It's not about the.numbers at all, it's about the plays in which they CHOOSE to call the way they do. You don't think the calls are opportunistic? Even a blatant hold going uncalled or hey, we should call it this time let's keep this thing close. Sure Matty, there are bad calls in every game but I'll be damned if there isn't starter in some games and some divisions by the league. The NFCE go alot tighter and the team the league wants to take it this year(possibly) is now in first and starting with that fucking Houston game.... The former 1st place team is fading fast with 3 division games left and 2 against the media lovefest first time ever SB champion eagles.... It's all .... TOO coincidental for me.... Way too much so. And it's been like that for years.
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