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Old 03-16-2022, 06:03 PM   #541
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Old 03-16-2022, 07:27 PM   #542
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Old 03-16-2022, 07:33 PM   #543
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You guys are all morons.

- Ukraine is in an existential crisis, they will take advantage of anything they can to survive. That includes putting out propaganda to recruit noobs to fight for them, and it includes sending those noobs to die so that trained Ukrainian military members can actually cause some damage.

- It's not like this is some well-coordinated effort. There's some branch of Ukrainian interests trying recruit noobs online. Then when the noobs actually show up, other Ukrainians who have no idea they're being recruited say hey you want to fight for us great have we got a job for you, follow me. There's no grand conspiracy to recruit and send them as cannon fodder. They just know they need help, and when help arrives shit is too frantic to have time to train, or equip, or prepare anybody.

- If you think propaganda is surprising, by any side, you've never studied war. It has existed, on all sides, in every damn conflict in human history.

- If you misread Chico's post and thought he was defending Russia, you're as dumb as Chico is. Chico's post was rational, despite how dumb he is.

It's war. It's dirty, nobody fights completely cleanly when their lives are on the line. But nobody's defending Russia, except Tucker Carlson and right wing idiots who believe in Russian fake news propaganda targeted at the US. But nobody mentioned Tucker Carlson in the first place.

Idiots everywhere.
First , that's Mr Moron to you! . I read chico's post the same way as punch, now if he meant it in a different way then he needs to go back to school becuase it came across differently! I do agree with you and have been saying this since day one. There is no way putin can save face he is a cornerd dog and will fight like one. He just bombed a theater that was housing 1000 women and children and was marked as such,.......they are all dead. Thing is people need to remember this is putins war not a war of the Russian people and it's a big reason the russians are having so much trouble ...his troops are deserting !
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Old 03-17-2022, 10:35 AM   #544
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Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

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You guys are all morons.

- Ukraine is in an existential crisis, they will take advantage of anything they can to survive. That includes putting out propaganda to recruit noobs to fight for them, and it includes sending those noobs to die so that trained Ukrainian military members can actually cause some damage.

- It's not like this is some well-coordinated effort. There's some branch of Ukrainian interests trying recruit noobs online. Then when the noobs actually show up, other Ukrainians who have no idea they're being recruited say hey you want to fight for us great have we got a job for you, follow me. There's no grand conspiracy to recruit and send them as cannon fodder. They just know they need help, and when help arrives shit is too frantic to have time to train, or equip, or prepare anybody.

- If you think propaganda is surprising, by any side, you've never studied war. It has existed, on all sides, in every damn conflict in human history.

- If you misread Chico's post and thought he was defending Russia, you're as dumb as Chico is. Chico's post was rational, despite how dumb he is.

It's war. It's dirty, nobody fights completely cleanly when their lives are on the line. But nobody's defending Russia, except Tucker Carlson and right wing idiots who believe in Russian fake news propaganda targeted at the US. But nobody mentioned Tucker Carlson in the first place.

Idiots everywhere.

1) when i say war is dangerous it is for multiple reasons. Obviously some Ukrainian who just lost everything and is basically fighting for his life could go postal and kill anyone whether they are there to help or hurt. No shit. Itís fuckin war. But that wasnít exactly what Chico said. He said , in a nut shell, that you better watch out for Ukrainians if you go to help - WRONG - you better watch out for Putins army - the actual enemy- a total Tucker Carlson - lets make the good guys the bad ones statement- and like G one said if that isnít what u meant than edit your copy and paste from Fox news better! Nobody thinks some mercenary is going to show up in Ukraine and be made general and put safely in some control room away from danger.

2) chico has called Tucker mr integrity more than once, and parrotís everything the guy says. He doesnít have to mention him by name.
He completely insinuated that the Ukrainians are the danger.

Who in the hell is answering an online ad to show up in Ukraine and doesnít think it involves fighting? What propaganda are they spreading? They are being invaded, and if you go there to help them you god damn well know it is to fight and or die. If you go there you know damn well you are not a trained assassin and you are probably going to die. Do they think they are there to hand out waters?? They do not need to lie about anything or spread propaganda. The entire world is well aware of what is going on, except some Russians who are relegated to whatever propaganda is spread by Putin.

Your post is extremely vague and frankly says a whole lot of nothing except that Chico is dumb. If you donít think Chico believes exactly what Tucker and the right wing idiots say - than maybe you are misreading him, and welcome to the idiot train.

Glad Chico wasnít posting to the french during the revolution about how dangerous and unhinged the Colonists were because he heard it from Tucker Carlson and im glad you werenít there calling it a rational thought.

Yes, war is dangerous anywhere, anytime, for a multitude of reasons including the people who are desperate and cornered that you are there to help.

No, those desperate people are not the real enemy, far from it. That is fuckin propaganda to make people think twice before helping- putin invents it, tucker slings it, chico repeats it, you defend him? Crazy.
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Old 03-17-2022, 11:05 AM   #545
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I just assume youre a grumpier version of Red Foreman ...

(apologies for calling you an asshole, I take that back .. the grumpy part stays)
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Old 03-17-2022, 11:06 AM   #546
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Old 03-17-2022, 11:13 AM   #547
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Re: Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

Punch, did you actually see the video I posted which kinda started this conversation? The guy went to Ukraine, seemed surprised his base and training camp was attacked(clearly a viable military target), refused to go Keiv the most important city and front in the war(acted like this was a chose your own adventure book), complained about not being well equipped, seemed surprised that historic desertion military norm across the world is that threat of being shot by his own superiors, etc.

Iím saying people should understand clearly what they are getting into, this guy and many others do not. War is hell

I donít know what tucker or anyone else has to do with itÖits honestly funny and kinda wierd. I guess I could sit around and post all the Rachel madow, Chris Hayes, joy Reid, don lemon nonsense they spew each nightÖbut I seem to understand it doesnít matter what there opinion is.
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Old 03-17-2022, 11:30 AM   #548
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Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

As i said more than once in my diatribe I, along with the entire world, is well aware that War is dangerous for a multitude of reasons including the cornered desperate people you are there to help.

But to take one guy, who seemed to think this was an excursion on a princess cruise line, or as you said, a character in a choose your own adventure book, - that got in over his head - and make it sound like the Ukrainians are lying, spreading propaganda, and using mercenaries as decoys is not painting a complete picture. Id imagine most going to Ukraine during a Russian invasion are not ad naÔve.
Either way, the real danger is the Russians who donít belong there.

If you were simply saying hey be extremely careful before you go to help Ukraine - well no shit? I do not parrot Rachel Maddow - i donít even watch her - i form my own opinions- But your track record of calling Tucker Mr Integrity, and parroting hard right propaganda is not exactly ancient history- and it came across as - man these Ukrainians are unhinged so beware of them - because they are lying to and killing people by putting them in harms way- something Putin would clearly embrace - again if you go there thinking it is a choose ur own adventure book you are a moron - but the enemy is not the Ukrainians because some dipshit was surprised he didnít have carte blanche when he arrived voluntarily. The enemy is Russia, and most going to help know exactly what they are signing up for. Not the other way around.
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Old 03-17-2022, 11:48 AM   #549
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Hey there's about to be a war in Ukraine.

Moving on, when will we start warning people about the American bio labs that are positioned in Ukraine to unleash biochemical attacks on Russia? I know Tucker, and Vlad are both very skeptical about this.

Tucker Carlson is literally played on Russian news outlets. The guy should be locked the fuck up. It has reached levels of absolute insanity.
The nerve of this guy to sit there with his American flag pin like he is some patriot while he coddles Putin. No wonder Trump loves this guy.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1657...spiracy-theory

Thoughts on this Chico? I canít wait to hear them.

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Old 03-17-2022, 12:19 PM   #550
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Old 03-17-2022, 12:21 PM   #551
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Moving on, when will we start warning people about the American bio labs that are positioned in Ukraine to unleash biochemical attacks on Russia? I know Tucker, and Vlad are both very skeptical about this.

Tucker Carlson is literally played on Russian news outlets. The guy should be locked the fuck up. It has reached levels of absolute insanity.
The nerve of this guy to sit there with his American flag pin like he is some patriot while he coddles Putin. No wonder Trump loves this guy. But I know Russia, Russia, Russia- hoax witch-hunt blah blah blah. Man it makes ya wonder.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1657...spiracy-theory

Thoughts on this Chico? I canít wait to hear them.
LOL, it's Brandon's fault.
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Old 03-17-2022, 12:32 PM   #552
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LOL, it's Brandon's fault.

I edited the russian hoax part out of my post because I wanted Chicos attention solely on Tuckers latest Putinism. Figured the fact that all three are in bed together implied enough Ö.
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Honestly .. what does Tucker Carlson have to do with Ukraine?

Who gives a fuck what that guy says.
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Honestly .. what does Tucker Carlson have to do with Ukraine?

Who gives a fuck what that guy says.

Millions upon millions of people - and apparently the Russian state media?
He is perpetuating Russian propaganda literally word for word, and works for a major US news media outlet during prime time - Not sure how you leave him out of the equation honestly.
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I just assume youre a grumpier version of Red Foreman ...

(apologies for calling you an asshole, I take that back .. the grumpy part stays)
Spot on. Love me some Red Foreman. And you can leave the asshole, that fits.
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