Redskins Training Camp Thread

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Tell that to Jay Gruden, whose job is on the line.

I hear what you are saying, but Jay seems to know that it is playoffs or bust for him.

You've reminded me of the the contradictory nature of the top Redskins executives. The idea that the HC's job should be on the line with a team that is clearly rebuilding is unfair to him and makes no sense.

Yes, I'm aware that the Skins executives always claim that they're in the race and that they expect to go to the playoffs but I don't believe them. Just one look at our QB, WR and ILB positions will tell you that we're in a rebuild. I don't have a problem with rebuilding but I do have a problem with doing it in a half-assed way.

Not extending Jay Gruden's contract and asking him to make the playoffs under the pressure of possibly losing his job is a disincentive to his playing the younger players to get them ready for years of legitimate future playoff runs.

Wouldn't it be nice to hear some truth from Redskins executives and to see them provide a clear-cut direction for a HC who is not a perpetual lame duck?

[WCommandersfan99]

Agree that Gruden's job should not be on the line with a true rebuild, regardless of how long he's been there. That's why I don't wanna see Haskins out there prematurely (especially if he's not ready), if Gruden flat out feels he can't win with Colt/Case. Just don't want to see Haskins' growth/progression take a hit unnecessarily.

[skinsfan69]

The FO will never go into or admit full rebuild. According to Bruce "we're close." To what? 9-7? Look what happened when you played what should have been a SB team. Brees had his family on the sidelines celebrating records. Bruce has to be the dumbest executive in pro sports. Quit trying to BS the fans. Look at your stadium on Sundays. Own that, instead of dancing around it.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The FO will never go into or admit full rebuild. According to Bruce "we're close." To what? 9-7? Look what happened when you played what should have been a SB team. Brees had his family on the sidelines celebrating records. Bruce has to be the dumbest executive in pro sports. Quit trying to BS the fans. Look at your stadium on Sundays. Own that, instead of dancing around it.

Attendance should be interesting this year with it declining in 2018. Think it will be very telling for overall fan interest.

[GridIron26]

Just read this great article about Kerrigan and how committed he is to maintaining his body for football.. Perhaps there is not much else Redskins can do to prevent injuries, only players themselves need to put in the work and commit to body maintenance on their own? Kerrigan gave a great example - "If you are out here working your ass off in training camp and going back to the hotel and ordering burgers and fries for dinner, you are going to struggle the next few days."

https://www.espn.com/blog/washington...ubs-float-pods

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by The Skinsinator

Attendance should be interesting this year with it declining in 2018. Think it will be very telling for overall fan interest.

I fully expect it to pick up right where it left off last season, and continue to get worse. Unless they start off like 4-0 to 6-1 and somehow look really good, I think it's going to continue to decline. Some good potential players drafted aren't going to change things overnight. You still see #FIREBRUCEALLEN everywhere you look.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

I fully expect it to pick up right where it left off last season, and continue to get worse. Unless they start off like 4-0 to 6-1 and somehow look really good, I think it's going to continue to decline. Some good potential players drafted aren't going to change things overnight. You still see #FIREBRUCEALLEN everywhere you look.

The team may be banking on Haskins as the cure all- even for attendance. That and Gruden's make or break year have me thinking they could rush Haskins starting before he's ready. As good as Haskins is, I don't think he's enough to cure attendance woes- at least not yet.

[skinsfaninok]

If this team starts out 1-3 or 1-4, Jay will be gone mid season

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If this team starts out 1-3 or 1-4, Jay will be gone mid season

I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England

[skinsfaninok]

Dallas (Zeke may be out) is winnable
Chicago will come down to earth a little bit IMO.

[SFREDSKIN]

Wes Martin should start

https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/8/25/...ensive-linemen

[jamf]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England

Exactly.
Redskins will probably be Vegas morning line underdogs for 7 of the first 8 games.



Khalil Mack is going to destroy his old teammate Donald Penn wk3.

They better bring 5 QBs for that game.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by jamf

Exactly.
Redskins will probably be Vegas morning line underdogs for 7 of the first 8 games.



Khalil Mack is going to destroy his old teammate Donald Penn wk3.

They better bring 5 QBs for that game.

The Bears defense will not be dominant as they were last year simply because Vic Fangio isn't their defense coordinator anymore, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bears will be easy for Redskins to beat but I doubt they will dominate on defense side that is unless Gruden don't call plays that will protect Keenum.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England

First three games at home will look like road games. I think they will be 2-3 after 5.

[Chief X_Phackter]

It will be tough, right out of the gate with 4 of the first 5 against playoff teams from last year. I don't think it will be terrible though. This team was well on it's way to probably a 10-11 win season last year before QB and other injuries derailed the season. On paper the defense looks better this year. The offense will likely be about as average as it was to begin the season last year, and improve as the season goes on. Really, injuries and whether or not the o-line can adequately protect the QB will tell the story. I can see a 2-3 start, and if things bounce their way maybe 3-2. Honestly, I'd rather have them take their lumps early on than later in the season when injuries/health will likely be more of a concern.