08-19-2021, 11:00 AM | #376 |
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Is there anyone else on this board that cares to explain how and why widespread vaccination can stop mutations and new strains ? My head hurts.
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08-19-2021, 11:03 AM | #377 | |
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“The slower the vaccinations happen the higher chance of mutations in the virus and new strains” How in the hell can you read it, quote it, and tell ke it doesn’t say that”? Wow. Just wow. |
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08-19-2021, 11:07 AM | #378 | |
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This article - https://www.nationaljewish.org/patie...a-virus-mutate - does say new strains can be stopped by widespread vaccination. However, I tend to lean towards the conclusion provided by the infectious disease expert - that vaccinations can keep viruses "in check", rather than the conclusion provided by the pulmonary and critical care physician - that vaccinations can be "stopped" by widespread vaccination. Ultimately he's saying that vaccinations will eradicate the virus, which I have not seen any infectious disease expert imply thus far. |
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08-19-2021, 11:24 AM | #379 |
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I'm just going to end this discussion right here because it's getting old, and I honestly think that maybe we are missing each other's points in a lot of ways. You can keep going if you want.
My original MAIN point with all of this goes along the lines of the old saying: "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." All this badgering people, shaming, belittling, etc. for not getting the vaccine is not productive. It's your way, and it's the method obviously used by others on this forum and elsewhere. But it isn't helpful. Instead, maybe you should try a little encouragement if you want to get your point across, or motivate people to get the vaccine. "An effective science defender will listen to a person’s reasons for not masking or vaccinating and share counterevidence without questioning their competence, good will or intelligence." - Scientific American I was vaccine hesitant at first, but I am now vaccinated - have been since April. My wife is vaccinated. My one eligible kid is vaccinated. My other kid will be eligible in a few months, and she will also be vaccinated. Why, because while I understand there are potential risks, the benefits (according to the available science) seem to outweigh the risks. I educated myself and made a decision because it seemed like the best option. I didn't make the decision because someone pressured me to, or told me I was "dumb". |
08-19-2021, 11:38 AM | #380 |
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Would have guessed you were vaccinated. Don’t remember calling u dumb. Just misinformed. This was a simple argument about whether or not widespread vaccination could stop mutations and new strains.
It started for me when you said “get vaccinated if you want”. I thought that sounded a little counter productive or lazy in ways. When it comes to life or death use all means necessary to get shots in arms. Even if thst means using fear tactics or name calling. Its just a better alternative to the damn way of life this virus has Created. My own wife was hesitant. I understand it. I felt guinea piggish before my appointment. But i guess at the end of the day id rather have two heads than die. My daughter is 14 and was getting most of her information or misinformation from tik tok and shit like that. She got her first dose last week and im happy about that since school starts in a month. She will have received her second dose by than. Have a nice day Chief. |
08-19-2021, 12:14 PM | #381 | |
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The NFL policies are fairly random, punitive and not really meant to affect global mutation rate. Fairly random because why should vaccination affect testing. Simply put, that is an incentive that actually can lead to a higher spread within an infected facility. |
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08-19-2021, 12:50 PM | #382 | |
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20 percent of a small number of people isn’t going to change anything provided that that small number of unvaccinated nfl players isn’t helping to spread the virus in clubs, gyms, locker rooms, etc etc. NFL players are rock stars man. Everyone wants to be around them. Remember C Red this started with one individual. That one individual sure affected the global mutation rate. |
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08-19-2021, 12:52 PM | #383 | |
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I apologize to everyone, this has gone off the rails. I only speak for myself when I say I don't know jack about science or the vaccine, only that I trust the people who have chosen careers in that field to help save lives.
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08-19-2021, 01:53 PM | #386 | |
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I thought it was a healthy slightly edgy conversation. Lol. I don’t know shit either, I just regurgitate what those people you speak of tell me. |
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08-19-2021, 02:06 PM | #387 | |
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Problem is that we‘re not alone in the world. So high infection rates anywhere encourage variant development. And a new variant can spread quickly as we‘ve seen with delta. One more thing. The “original” virus (alpha) is not likely to be hosted (carried) by vaccinated people, so they were not likely to spread the virus. Not so for Delta. It has a potentially high viral load even among the vaccinated, therefore masking and distancing is again recommended even for fully vaccinated to help limit the spread. Sorry about the length of my post, but the short first paragraph answered your question. |
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08-19-2021, 02:40 PM | #388 | |
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The rest of the world is definitely an issue. Also Joe Namath should not be in the hall of fame. Just wanted to add some sports to my coronavirus comment. |
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08-19-2021, 02:46 PM | #389 |
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Can't get to herd immunity if we have two herds.
Not sure who I heard that from recently, it's a simple but effective description of what we're facing. |
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And to add sports content, Joe Namath should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. I watched that game live and he delivered the impossible. Nobody, and I mean nobody except maybe him thought they had a chance,,, |
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