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Old 09-27-2020, 05:45 PM   #1
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How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

I have been a big supporter of Dwayne Haskins. I didn’t know if he’s the ONE, but I didn’t want to have him sit out his rookie season ( advocated by some). Following his first season, that ended in a good note - two very good final games, I thought he deserved a full test audition this season.

Haskins is very inconsistent, sometimes making laser passes to barely open receivers. Other times he is very inaccurate, missing wide open receivers.
His footwork is bad - even when there is no rush, he has “happy feet”, using his considerable arm strength to force passes downfield. His weak mechanics is much of the reason for his inaccurate throws. He seems at times to be playing tight - resulting in over-throwing the receivers often.

This game against Cleveland he got caught several times staring down receivers, resulting in INT. If Haskins QB play doesn’t improve soon, he will be eaten alive by really good defenses.

Of course, Haskins is not helped by a mediocre OL, and a weak WR group outside of McLaurin. I wonder how long Rivera is going to let Christian and Martin flounder before he attempts to try someone available in FA.

However, there were periods where he had good protection and open receivers/RB. He did well sometimes and other times he was inaccurate- missing his receiver or forcing them to make amazing catches. I think our offense could increase its stats by 20% if Dwayne could hit open guys, in stride.

With four turnovers, it is fair for fans to ask: how long do we keep playing Haskins? When have we seen enough?

I’d say by MID-SEASON would be the EARLIEST number of games before bringing in Allen or Alex Smith. You’ve got to let a young, inexperienced QB like Haskins have enough reps to test his meddle and learn the new offense. Maybe even 10 games. What do you think?

Remember, if you draft a QB in the first round you’ve got to give him enough games to prove himself. So I know there are ppl out there who want to dump Dwayne NOW. That’s too soon.

Topic: HOW MANY GAMES IS ENOUGH FOR DWAYNE HASKINS? Has the team given him enough support in terms of targets? Sure they brought in INMAN and Logan Thomas. But that’s about it. I was interested to see how HOOPER did for the Browns, since many of us had hoped the WFT would go for him in FA. The team has a ton of cap money - great for next year. IS THE OFFENSE GOOD ENOUGH TO PROPERLY TEST HASKINS?

My final thought is this: how could the Redskins draft a first round QB with such a low amount of inexperience? With significant problems with BASIC QB FUNDAMENTALS? A Pocket passer with big inaccuracy issues?? I see Snyder’s and Allen’s hands on this pick. Snyder likes players who were locals. When you draft a QB in the first round you want to winner. Someone who can do well enough in the first year to make you want to keep him. Haskins looks like PROJECT PLAYER who will need 1-2 seasons MORE to know if he’s a franchise QB. The NFL isn’t like that anymore. Sure Mahommes got to sit and learn behind Alex Smith. But most first round QB are thrown in the deep end from game 1. You get maybe two seasons max to prove yourself.

I think Haskins might be very good in 2-3 years. But this franchise doesn’t have 2-3 years. Furthermore, after 2-3 years Haskins may be a bust, like RG3, Jason Campbell, Shuler. BTW, historically most of those Redskin QB had 2-3 full seasons to prove themselves as FAILURES. That’s for all you that think the Haskin’s experiment should be over after 9 games. HOW MUCH TIME FOR HASKIN’s? Then who: Allen or Alex Smith?


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Old 09-27-2020, 05:58 PM   #2
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Allen and Smith aren’t the answer this year or for the long term. Ride it out this season with Dwayne.


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Allen and Smith aren’t the answer this year or for the long term. Ride it out this season with Dwayne.


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Agree. You have to play DH all season. The team cant give up on a 1st round pick based on only a few games.
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Old 09-27-2020, 06:01 PM   #4
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All of them.
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all the games. worse case we get to draft Trevor
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Keep’m in there to get Trevor Lawrence
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Keep’m in there to get Trevor Lawrence
The Jets/Giants might combine to go 0/32. Not to mention, other bad teams. Our chances of getting him are slim amd none. Quitting on games is bulshit.
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The Jets/Giants might combine to go 0/32. Not to, mention other bad teams. Our chances of getting him are slim amd none. Quitting on games is bulshit.
This!
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The Jets/Giants might combine to go 0/32. Not to mention, other bad teams. Our chances of getting him are slim amd none. Quitting on games is bulshit.
So say we aren't in the running. That means Jets/Giants aren't keeping Darnold or Jones and I would take their accuracy over Haskins. Would you you bide time with one of them over Haskins while we go back into the QB draft turnstile?
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So say we aren't in the running. That means Jets/Giants aren't keeping Darnold or Jones and I would take their accuracy over Haskins. Would you you bide time with one of them over Haskins while we go back into the QB draft turnstile?


Funny you say that. I was just thinking exactly that and that we are gonna wind up with Darnold. There are a couple other good quarterbacks and there are always one or two that burst on the scene late but next year is loaded with o line and i think that is where we need to go...
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Funny you say that. I was just thinking exactly that and that we are gonna wind up with Darnold. There are a couple other good quarterbacks and there are always one or two that burst on the scene late but next year is loaded with o line and i think that is where we need to go...
Darnold has talent...Adam Gase is an absolute terrible coach and is a major asshole without people skills.

I’d take Darnold here for sure..he has a lot talent with a terrible o talent around him.
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So say we aren't in the running. That means Jets/Giants aren't keeping Darnold or Jones and I would take their accuracy over Haskins. Would you you bide time with one of them over Haskins while we go back into the QB draft turnstile?
They might keep them, but they'll still ask for a king's ransom at minimum for No. 1 pick. No less than 3 1st round picks. Probably flopping picks this year and 3 additional 1st round picks. Pass on that.
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Maybe he’s not, maybe he’s the answer but you can’t throw the plan away this early in the season. Haskins has RR’s trust for now (at least is what RR says).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...askins-3-picks
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The Jets/Giants might combine to go 0/32. Not to mention, other bad teams. Our chances of getting him are slim amd none. Quitting on games is bulshit.

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The Jets/Giants might combine to go 0/32. Not to mention, other bad teams. Our chances of getting him are slim amd none. Quitting on games is bulshit.
The Jets and Giants have their shiny new QBs. Provided no one wants to pay a kings ransom to trade up to the first two picks, Lawrence will be there at 3 if we want him.
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