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Old 04-04-2018, 10:50 AM   #46
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Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

IDK, Russell to me seems like a total drama queen
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:12 AM   #47
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Basically Allen made the Smith deal and didn't tell Williams until he came to work the next day. He told Williams, "don't pick up your phone until we talk." The media got a hold of it and made it a big deal. If Williams is your VP of Football why wasn't he in on the trade? How come he didn't know until the next day. That type of thing.
Ah yes I remember that.. I didn't think of anything about that since we don't know exactly the purpose behind that message but now with this news, I suppose it means he wasn't involved in the trade process like you explained or at least it definitely wasn't anything good.

... Just right when we are starting to think Redskins are becoming drama-free organization
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:27 PM   #48
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Itís pretty simple, all the talent evaluators put together a list and Smith was at the top of all of them. Allen is the guy that actually makes the call and pulls the trigger on the deal. The WP article was sloppy in making it seem like anyone was left in the dark, thatís just not the case.
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:08 PM   #49
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Re: Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

I always wonder how similar a lot of our "issues" are to many of the other teams around the league, but we're just ragged on more because we're the Skins.

But then on the flip side, we've done a lot of losing the last 25 years so it's probably warranted.
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:17 PM   #50
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Re: Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

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Itís pretty simple, all the talent evaluators put together a list and Smith was at the top of all of them. Allen is the guy that actually makes the call and pulls the trigger on the deal. The WP article was sloppy in making it seem like anyone was left in the dark, thatís just not the case.
This is exactly the scenario Cooley laid out on his show the other day as to how it went down.

There is a whole team of behind the scenes people evaluating players but BA is the only one anyone knows about.

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Old 04-04-2018, 01:23 PM   #51
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I don't have a problem with Allen being on the hot seat for the team's record, he's the final decision guy and now that all the issues have been dealt with, I think it is reasonable for Snyder to expect better results out of Allen and Gruden.

That being said, people need to stop acting like we are the Jets or the Browns. We have room for improvement, but things are okay and could potentially improve IMO.

People also need to get over Cousins, it was not going to work out, and it's not JUST the teams' fault. We definitely would have been SOL if we had given him $84 million guaranteed.

I also don't mind the way the team functions now, in case people have forgotten we no longer:

- Have our owner meddle with the team and make stupid decisions.
- Sign over the hill players for a ton of money based on past exploits (Bruce Smith, Jason Taylor, Deion, etc., etc.).
- Make stupid knee-jerk trade decisions (remember the TJ Duckett trade?)
- Continue to carry a ton of dead money for previous bad contracts.
- Always having cap room issues because of said bad contracts.
- Having nobodies like Danny Wuerfell or Shane Matthews as our QBs.

Now, I'm not saying that the FO or Allen's tenure has been perfect. They've made mistakes and could use improvement like any other team. But, people need to act like it is the end of the world. And if they the team drops a turd this season, then yes, some people will need to get fired (I'd be fine with Eric Schaeffer as the GM).

Finally, I don't believe anything that Chris Russell or Jason Reid say about the Redskins. They are as believable as Mike Florio or Jason LaCanfora and their TMZ-like reports.
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IDK, Russell to me seems like a total drama queen
I don't listen to him much, but he does seem to be
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Get rid of Allen and make Eric Schaffer the GM. That would be awesome.
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:35 PM   #54
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I don't listen to him much, but he does seem to be

I had to stop following him on Twitter, he seems to always be stirring up shit
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I had to stop following him on Twitter, he seems to always be stirring up shit
I stopped following him when the team acquired DeSean Jackson and he threw a hissy fit about it. Before the team acquired him, he said he would quit if the Redskins got Jackson (he didn't unfortunately).
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:59 PM   #56
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I stopped following him when the team acquired DeSean Jackson and he threw a hissy fit about it. Before the team acquired him, he said he would quit if the Redskins got Jackson (he didn't unfortunately).

Yeah forgot about that, heís definitely all drama
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:02 PM   #57
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Re: Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

There are parts of the media that simply hate Snyder and/or the Skins, and make their living finding dirt to muddy the waters.

The nut of the story, if the Skins don't win then Allen should be moved is true of every GM and Front office in the league. The drama this report brings is a clickbait reporter knowing that there is a strong anti BA base, and reports of his demise will get lots of publicity.
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:51 PM   #58
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recently the thing that happened w/ the Smith trade, where Williams was made to look like a figure head.
I donít get that one. Williams is NOT a GM. Fans assumed he had more authority than he did, but Dougís just a personnel guy. bruce has always been the guy.
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Re: Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.

I just don't see how Allen ever gets canned here barring absolute total collapse / failure - like going winless or being brutal this season at 3 or 4 wins. Dan and Bruce seem too chummy, maybe even more so than him and Vinny. Speaking of Vinny, i do believe that Vinny actually had a better W-L record than Bruce, but someone can correct me if i'm wrong.
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If Bruce and Jay don't start winning soon (perhaps this upcoming season) Snyder will fire both of them. Count on it.
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