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Old 10-19-2018, 09:00 AM   #61
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Great letter from a great fan:

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Old 10-19-2018, 09:20 AM   #62
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I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.

Most people will say he turned around a bad situation and added stability. That alone should give him creditability. The bigger question is whether he can take the next step. When I look at the team, I say is it better now than when he arrived. The answer is "Yes".

I also know the grass is greener on the other side, but I do not understand all the baby shanny love. I am sorry but he has not done shit yet. He may turn out to be a great coach, but so may Jay.


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Old 10-19-2018, 09:56 AM   #63
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I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.

Most people will say he turned around a bad situation and added stability. That alone should give him creditability. The bigger question is whether he can take the next step. When I look at the team, I say is it better now than when he arrived. The answer is "Yes".

I also know the grass is greener on the other side, but I do not understand all the baby shanny love. I am sorry but he has not done shit yet. He may turn out to be a great coach, but so may Jay.


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For my part, it's not Shanny (or baby Shanny) love - maybe a little McVay remorse. But generally, it's the fact that while he brought stability, he also brought very noticeable concerns. The chief of which is the team's frequent lackluster performance on the big stage. Second is questionable calls ala Andy Reid. If he wins the division and/or playoff games, then maybe he is learning as a coach. That is possible. But if we continue to be a middle of the road team, then his position at least needs to be looked at.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:26 AM   #64
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The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.
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The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.
It may not have made any difference, it may have. The only thing hindsight tells us is that the offense was not properly prepared for the regular season. And under Gruden, I think that has been the case every year.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:36 AM   #66
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The preseason snaps talk drives me a little nutty. Would Smith be noticeably better if he had twice the work? Three times? What’s the magic number? I still maintain that he got more quality work in practice vs a preseason opponent playing basic schemes with backups.

The Rams pretty much sat their guys all August and it had zero impact. No they didn’t have a new QB but they had plenty of new faces around Goff.
I agree.

I think fans want something to point at and say, "That's the reason they're not playing well right there!" when the truth is there are a lot more factors that go into it.

I'm not really sure why the offense isn't clicking so well right now but I accept that. Hopefully it gets better but playing more in the pre-season would not have helped as much as people like to believe.

What would have happened if A. Smith go thurt in the pre-season? We'd be hearing the exact opposite calls such as, "Why are the starters in so long anyways??"

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Its' the life of an NFL head coach.
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Old 10-19-2018, 10:49 AM   #67
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Remember when Jay said "Alex Smith came here to win now?"

The excuses for Alex Smith not preforming are aggravating to me. 1/3 of the season is gone folks...Jay and Alex should be clicking and we should see growth each week. Instead the passing game seems to be stalled.

Enough with the excuses for Alex Smith and Jay Gruden.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:14 PM   #68
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I disagree and I think it is unfair. Reality is it takes time to find the rhythm of a passing game. To think different, it silly.

I am just as frustrated as anyone but I am also excited. We are 3 - 2 with a struggling passing game that should get better as the weeks pass.

I may change my mind if we go out there and pee down our leg vs Dallas.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:29 PM   #69
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I struggle with the Jay Gruden hate. He is highly regarded in the league as a really good coach. He may never be a Bill Parcells or Joe Gibbs, but he is well above average.
Well above average is a stretch.
He is a .500 coach that coaches scared and is too soft on his players.
He's also inherited a ProBowl QB and Superstar LT and still couldn't get us to 10 wins in any season.

Norv Turner started out with Shuler/Frerotte at QB and retiring Jim Lachey at LT. He got us within a bad snap of the NFC Championship game with Brad Johnson at QB. I'd take Norv over Gruden.

No, He isn't a well above average coach.
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Old 10-19-2018, 12:57 PM   #70
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I disagree and I think it is unfair. Reality is it takes time to find the rhythm of a passing game. To think different, it silly.

I am just as frustrated as anyone but I am also excited. We are 3 - 2 with a struggling passing game that should get better as the weeks pass.

I may change my mind if we go out there and pee down our leg vs Dallas.
You can disagree which is fine, but "unfair" is straight up bullshit. We have more than adequate weapons...from what Im told the roster has double digits wins talent...we been ok with injuries...schedule has been fine...we are in a weak ass division...we have continuity with coaching staff...and most relevant, Alex Smith is a proven Vet.

Smith hasn't played to the trade or the contract...Adrian Peterson has been the difference maker NOT Smith. I see 2 back to back bad performances and Jay Gruden flat out said yesterday, Alex is holding the ball too long.

I need to see Alex Smith come out and perform at a high level this week. We paid him to win big games like New Orleans (oh buzzsaw, trap game...) on a big stage...but most importantly we paid Smith to win divisional games like Dallas at home.

Coaches and the Front office chose Alex over Cousins...I need to see why. I need to see it now.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:00 PM   #71
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KC was gone long before AS was chosen. AS was chosen over Rosen, Jackson, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford.

there was no amount of money keeping KC here, he's even said he took less from the vikings then the jets offered, and he had 0 loyalty to the skins (for right or wrong that's just what it was in january this year).
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The biggest thing Smith is giving us right now vs Cousins, and this shouldn't be understated... Smith has 3 turnovers on the year and Cousins has 8. That's huge folks. You can win a lot of games in this league running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle.
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KC was gone long before AS was chosen. AS was chosen over Rosen, Jackson, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford.

there was no amount of money keeping KC here, he's even said he took less from the vikings then the jets offered, and he had 0 loyalty to the skins (for right or wrong that's just what it was in january this year).
agree and that's that fair...but that choice to trade and 77 million guaranteed over 4 years is not chump change. Alex Smith needs to play better.

I have every right to skeptical, Bruce and Danny QB decisions lay the foundation.
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The biggest thing Smith is giving us right now vs Cousins, and this shouldn't be understated... Smith has 3 turnovers on the year and Cousins has 8. That's huge folks. You can win a lot of games in this league running the ball, playing good defense, and winning the turnover battle.
that's big time for sure
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:24 PM   #75
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We're 3-2. The Saints game sucked because we got whooped, but if I had to pick 1 of our 1st 5 games we were losing, regardless of score, that was it.

The Colts loss stings, and it looks worse and worse each week. We needed that one.

But if we beat Dallas, there is no way I'll complain about 4-2. We're due to beat those fuckdicks. Win!!
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