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Old 04-15-2008, 04:59 PM   #46
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Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick...

Chris Long. Money.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:29 AM   #47
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Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick...

dorsey or chris long will be a good no. 1.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:56 AM   #48
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Chris Long is the best player in this draft and it isn't even close. The only reason people still talk about Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, and Glenn Dorsey as potentially better players is because they went to bigger football schools and everyone watched them play on Saturday (and Gholston is a workout warrior). I watched Chris Long play every Saturday and he is the best college football player I've seen. He is relentless, eats up blockers, uses his hands better than any DE I've seen at the college level, forces teams to gameplan against him, got double teamed almost every single play because he was so much better than anyone else Virginia had on D, and still put up sick stats. For those who say he would be better in a 3-4, I say you are dead wrong. I guess that comes because he played in Groh's 3-4 and because the 'experts' say he might be suited to that defense. I think he was misused a lot of time as a 2-gap player and that if he could just take the edge he would be an absolute monster. The guy is 275 lbs, runs a 4.75, is built like a friggin' truck, and is extremely quick off the ball when given the opportunity to rush the passer. I hope he gets to play in a 4-3 in the NFL because he will dominate. He's not a 'tweener' he is a classic DE and I only wish he could wear burgundy and gold.

Not even a contest, Chris Long by a mile and a half.

I have to agree, I was 6 rows from the field when he rocked the Terps this year. He has amazing talent and has eaten, breathed and slept football since he was in the womb. His football IQ is off the charts. This thoroughbred has a great bloodline, plus Howie would give us more coverage on sundays which is always nice.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:09 AM   #49
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I am going to reiterate Chris Long. There are great college football players and there are GREAT college football players. This guy, every single time I saw him play, was in on every play. UVa needed a big D play and voila there was Chris Long. Quite seriously if he had been on a decent team that challenged for a championship he would have been a Heisman canidate. Every single game he played he was the best player on the field. I don't know if I can accurately convey how good he is. I just can't imagine he isn't going to be just as dominant at the next level.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:12 AM   #50
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According to Scouts Inc., here are the top 32 players in the draft. According to the grades, Darren McFadden, Chris Long, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey and Matt Ryan are all even. My personal choice would be Jake Long.
Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas 98
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
4. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
5. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady OT Boise St. 96
8. Keith Rivers LB USC 96
9. Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois 96
10. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State 96
11. Branden Albert G Virginia 95
12. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon 95
13. Derrick Harvey DE Florida 95
14. Jerod Mayo OLB Tennessee 95
15. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 95
16. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 95
17. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 94
18. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 94
19. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 93
20. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 92
21. Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. 92
22. Aqib Talib CB Kansas 92
23. Phillip Merling DE Clemson 92
24. Limas Sweed WR Texas 91
25. Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech 91
26. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 90
27. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 90
28. DeSean Jackson WR California 89
29. Dustin Keller TE Purdue 89
30. Felix Jones RB Arkansas 89
31. Dan Connor LB Penn State 89
32. Kenny Phillips S Miami (FL) 89
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:13 AM   #51
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Jake Long. I think it's more than fair to say that if J.Long hadn't gone first, he would have gone in the top 5. Since 1995, these eight tackles have been taken in the top 5:

Joe Thomas, Levi Brown, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Robert Gallery, Jordan Gross, Mike Williams, Chris Samuels, Orlando Pace, Tony Boseli.

While you run this risk of getting a Mike Williams, there is a good chance that your getting a perenial pro-bowl or all-pro player if you take a tackle who is considered to be worthy of a top 5 pick.
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:28 AM   #52
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dorsey... aka the new warren sapp
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:38 AM   #53
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According to Scouts Inc., here are the top 32 players in the draft. According to the grades, Darren McFadden, Chris Long, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey and Matt Ryan are all even. My personal choice would be Jake Long.
Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas 98
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
4. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
5. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady OT Boise St. 96
8. Keith Rivers LB USC 96
9. Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois 96
10. Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State 96
11. Branden Albert G Virginia 95
12. Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon 95
13. Derrick Harvey DE Florida 95
14. Jerod Mayo OLB Tennessee 95
15. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 95
16. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 95
17. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 94
18. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 94
19. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 93
20. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 92
21. Devin Thomas WR Michigan St. 92
22. Aqib Talib CB Kansas 92
23. Phillip Merling DE Clemson 92
24. Limas Sweed WR Texas 91
25. Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech 91
26. Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma 90
27. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 90
28. DeSean Jackson WR California 89
29. Dustin Keller TE Purdue 89
30. Felix Jones RB Arkansas 89
31. Dan Connor LB Penn State 89
32. Kenny Phillips S Miami (FL) 89
Wow, Xavier Adibi got shafted in that assessment.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:02 PM   #54
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Glenn Dorsey. It's easier to generate an outside rush without elite DEs than to generate an inside rush without an elite DT. Moreover, if I had to choose between generating an outside rush or an inside rush, I'd take the inside rush every day of the week. Jake Long would be nice, but I think we have bigger needs along the Dline.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:43 PM   #55
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Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick...

Chris Long - safest pick in the draft.
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:39 PM   #56
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Who should they draft?

Don't think there any rumors that they are trading up for the top overall pick or anything like that, I'm just curious as to who you would want the Redskins to pick if they had the first overall pick.

Please note that this is strictly for the Redskins, so consider what you think the team's needs are and whether you think they should go for need or best player available (or the top need might happen to also be the best player).

And you can't trade the pick.
If they had the pick they should draft Dorsey. When healthy, he's the best player IMO. But we're talking about Snyeratto and we know they are gung ho on wr's. So they'd probably take Devin Thomas.
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Old 04-26-2008, 04:47 AM   #57
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Long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Get it!!!!!!LONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!..........But we don't so #21 will have to do.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:48 AM   #58
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Glenn F'n Dorsey !
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