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Old 12-19-2022, 12:24 PM   #31
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On a 3rd and 3!! I'm not a fan of it on any down/distance, but that's egregiously fucking stupid. Only a dumbass would call that.
Anybody got a video of it?

Was that an empty set look then put Samuels in motion to back field?
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Ron definitely looking bad with the Scott Turner over Kevin O'Connell move - O'Connell just lead the greatest comeback in NFL history on Saturday and Turner is running Curtis Samuel up the middle on 3rd down lol.
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That's not how you coach 'em up?
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Ron definitely looking bad with the Scott Turner over Kevin O'Connell move - O'Connell just lead the greatest comeback in NFL history on Saturday and Turner is running Curtis Samuel up the middle on 3rd down lol.
Main difference is they have a legit QB, something Turner hasn't had the luxury of having here.
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That's not how you coach 'em up?
I can't decide which one was worse - the Curtis Samuel mugging no call or the ref telling Terry he was good then immediately flagging him. Fuck 'em.

With that being said that's not why we lost - we lost because our D couldn't handle them and because Heinicke is limited as a qb.
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Main difference is they have a legit QB, something Turner hasn't had the luxury of having here.
This is true but Ron has filled the position with stopgaps since Haskins left - he is as much to blame here as Scott Turner.
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3-7 in the first half

Giants pinned to their 3 yd line.

Giants reel off an 18 play, 97 yard TD drive that ate up 8:35 mins
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This is true but Ron has filled the position with stopgaps since Haskins left - he is as much to blame here as Scott Turner.
And we'll be back in the QB hunt again this offseason, still haven't managed to replace Kurt. Thanks Bruce.
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Anybody got a video of it?

Was that an empty set look then put Samuels in motion to back field?
I can find tweets of people complaining about how stupid the playcall was, but I can't actually find a clip of it. I'm assuming he at least started in motion to get set in the backfield. Every Turner play requires 5 guys to go in motion at some point before hiking the ball.
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3-7 in the first half

Giants pinned to their 3 yd line.

Giants reel off an 18 play, 97 yard TD drive that ate up 8:35 mins
Just inexcusable by our D. They got shredded.
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And a 4th and 9 conversion on that drive.
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1/10 on 3rd down conversion, but only 1 true 3 and out possession.

Turner is handcuffed with playing calling. Heinike just limits what yo can do, makes what we do do predictable and the O line is below average. Leno left alone is becoming a problem. Outside of receivers making incredible 50-50 catches and runs up the middle ... youd think the PA would be killer.

Jones ran 10/35. D goal no. 1 seemed to be not let Jones beat you with his feet so we called lots of zone vs man, spied him ... we achieved goal no. 1 but at what cost.

5 down lineman has been our answer to stopping the run past few weeks, Giants audibled out of a play early when we went 5 DL, got a nice pass play and we seemed hesitant to go 5 DL as much

Sweat - Im sure he'll have a decent PFF grade but hes been Kerrigan this year, quiet for long stretches then has a big stat game.

Allen/payne - Giants just doubled and chipped those guys right out of the equation.

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Bad luck at times, bad ref calls at times (hold on Lucas to negate a 11 yd run right before Thib scoop and score was BS)

Giants were the better team.
I wished we had done a better job mixing up things on defense by bringing extra pressure on Jones. The defense only allowed 13 points, so they basically did their job. A few mishaps due to long drives. But overall, they did their job. You gotta score more points on the offensive side of the ball.

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And we'll be back in the QB hunt again this offseason, still haven't managed to replace Kurt. Thanks Bruce.
- Start Howell
- Re-sign Heinicke to be the backup
- Draft a QB somewhere in the mid to back-half of the draft (he can be inactive on gamedays)
- Through FA or the Draft, add at least 2 tackles, a G, and a C that could play G in a pinch

That would be my preference for the off-season/2023.
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And a 4th and 9 conversion on that drive.
I think they've been pretty good this year on 3rd down conversions, but that brought up horrible memories of years past never being able to get off of the field. Just no respect for our team, and they were right, it worked easily.
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This is true but Ron has filled the position with stopgaps since Haskins left - he is as much to blame here as Scott Turner.
Who realistically could we have gotten though?

It was Wentz or Mayfield or Trubisky for us.

Kinda fortunate Stafford and Wilson didnt want to come here.

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Until we solve the QB puzzle, we will forever be a .500 ish at best team.

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I think Carr could be a realistic option and I think hed allow us to run a full playbook. Hes not a top 10 QB but hes "functional"
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