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Old 11-19-2019, 10:25 AM   #1
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Trade the Bengals Haskins, Trent Williams, and whatever else they want to get Burrow.
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:52 AM   #2
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Trade the Bengals Haskins, Trent Williams, and whatever else they want to get Burrow.
No one is going to make that trade. You're in fantasy land.
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:06 AM   #3
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No one is going to make that trade. You're in fantasy land.
So the Bengals would not take a 2019 first round QB, elite LT, and something else, such as additional picks, to trade down one spot, where they could get Chase Young?

While I agree Haskins and Williams both being part of the deal would be unlikely, I do think there is a package of players or picks that could motivate the Bengals to trade down one spot - especially since they can still grab an elite player at 2.
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So the Bengals would not take a 2019 first round QB, elite LT, and something else, such as additional picks, to trade down one spot, where they could get Chase Young?

While I agree Haskins and Williams both being part of the deal would be unlikely, I do think there is a package of players or picks that could motivate the Bengals to trade down one spot - especially since they can still grab an elite player at 2.
The Redskins aren't trading Haskins cause they're not going to admit failure after one year. The Bengals aren't trading for Haskins cause the more he plays the more his value goes down. He was obviously overdrafted.

As far as Trent is concerned the only teams that are going to most likely interested are contending, win now type of teams, not a team in full rebuild.
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Old 11-19-2019, 02:02 PM   #5
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The Redskins aren't trading Haskins cause they're not going to admit failure after one year. The Bengals aren't trading for Haskins cause the more he plays the more his value goes down. He was obviously overdrafted.

As far as Trent is concerned the only teams that are going to most likely interested are contending, win now type of teams, not a team in full rebuild.
This statement presumes Bruce is still here next year. I genuinely believe he gets fired, or at least moved to a role outside of football ops. I think Snyder goes after a big name and that big name is going to insist on total control as a condition of accepting the job.

Meaning all bets are off. And from the Bengals side, they would be fools not to consider offers to trade down one spot. They're in a rebuild mode, so they need all the help they can get.
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The best way to get better quickly is the QB. Put Mahomes on the Redskins and he could take this POS, trash, garbage, unmotivated, sloppy ass team and they'd win 7 or 8 games. Or at least we'd be in every game. A d-linemen can't do that. A LT can't do that.

Look at Murray? If you put Rosen back on that team they're not even competitive. Plug in Murray and they're taking one of the best teams in the league to OT. That isn't a real good team and they're in just about every game cause of him.

A real tough decision needs to be made going into the draft next year.
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The best way to get better quickly is the QB. Put Mahomes on the Redskins and he could take this POS, trash, garbage, unmotivated, sloppy ass team and they'd win 7 or 8 games. Or at least we'd be in every game. A d-linemen can't do that. A LT can't do that.

Look at Murray? If you put Rosen back on that team they're not even competitive. Plug in Murray and they're taking one of the best teams in the league to OT. That isn't a real good team and they're in just about every game cause of him.

A real tough decision needs to be made going into the draft next year.
I don't think it would be a tough decision to draft BPA, especially if that player is a QB.
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:06 PM   #8
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Snyder isn’t gonna trade Haskins. Nobody is gonna tell him he was wrong about Haskins this early
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Old 11-19-2019, 12:27 PM   #9
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There is a chance now that Tua decides not to come out. If he stays at Alabama, he's got a good shot at being #1 the following year, and getting a much bigger contract than he is likely to see if he enters the draft this year due to the injury. Go BPA and if Haskins doesn't pan out, perhaps we get the overall #1 in 2021 and grab Tua.

I still like the idea of possibly trading down from 1.1 or 1.2 to 1.3 or 1.4 if a team has the hots for Young, Burrows, or maybe even Herbert. Maybe we get a 2nd rounder and still draft Thomas at 1.3 or 1.4.
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Offense:

WR: McLaurin
WR: Harmon
Slot: Sims or Quinn
LT: New Starter Needed
RT: Re-sign Flowers (or new starter needed if we don't)
C: New Starter Needed
RG: New Starter Needed (Scherff has been terrible, not paying him 13 million)
RT: New Starter Needed (Moses is a bum and I think he brings the team down)
TE: New Starter Needed (and also another TE to go with Sprinkle as backups)
RB: Guice (Hopefully Love as 3rd down back)
QB: Haskins

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CB: Dunbar
SS: Collins
FS: New Starter Needed
CB: New Starter Needed
OLB: Sweat
ILB: New Starter Needed or Foster if healthy (keep 2 of the current guys as backups)
ILB: New Starter Needed (Don't think any of our ILBs are quality starters)
OLB: Kerrigan (although I would think about cutting him, especially if we draft Young)
DE: Payne
NT: Ioannidis
DE: Allen

I count 9 new starters needed in an ideal world, and possibly 10 if we cut Kerrigan. Not realistic to replace 9 guys usually, so a few of the guys I think should be replaced will still be here.
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Joe Burrow is having an incredible season, I've been on his bandwagon since week 1 but he's not the answer to our issues, Haskins also had 3 Big time throws while having 0 turnover worthy throws Sunday, meaning he put the ball in tight windows as accurate as u can. The Int was on Quinn no Haskins.

Why are u guys already giving up on him? Because we are losing? Sorry but Mahomes wouldn't be that great in DC, we don't have his OL and WR/TE talent

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Joe Burrow is having an incredible season, I've been on his bandwagon since week 1 but he's not the answer to our issues, Haskins also had 3 Big time throws while having 0 turnover worthy throws Sunday, meaning he put the ball in tight windows as accurate as u can. The Int was on Quinn no Haskins.

Why are u guys already giving up on him? Because we are losing? Sorry but Mahomes wouldn't be that great in DC, we don't have his OL and WR/TE talent

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This upcoming draft has better prospects than Haskins and we may be in position to take one. The Cards had the balls to do it and they gambled right.
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This upcoming draft has better prospects than Haskins and we may be in position to take one. The Cards had the balls to do it and they gambled right.
Its gonna be a tough sell to Danny...And I think it ONLY appropriate if the incoming HC is 110% a QB coming out and is a perfect scheme fit.... and the football guys in the FO agree this is a top QB prospect.

I really would prefer to give Haskins another year.
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Its gonna be a tough sell to Danny...And I think it ONLY appropriate if the incoming HC is 110% a QB coming out and is a perfect scheme fit.... and the football guys in the FO agree this is a top QB prospect.

I really would prefer to give Haskins another year.
You really can't judge him until you correct his fundamentals. You can't throw into the tight windows needed for success constantly with poor techniques. Some of the things he will do even with a clean pocket baffle the mind.
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This upcoming draft has better prospects than Haskins and we may be in position to take one. The Cards had the balls to do it and they gambled right.
Other than Joe Burrow, who else is? Herbert is about the same and Tua has been hurt
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