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View Poll Results: Next year Taylor Heinicke will be...
Starting QB for the WFT 15 23.44%
Solid backup for the WFT 32 50.00%
Starter or backup for another team 2 3.13%
I have no clue 15 23.44%
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Old 11-25-2021, 12:49 PM   #541
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Couple of good games ?
His ratings this year
His good games
LA 119.3
Giants 99.5
Atl 127.1
TB 110
Car 141.3
His worse games
Saints 47.6
Den 70
KC 70
Buff 80.6
GB 86

Yes he had a couple very bad games .. but he has had more than a couple good games ..
Ok he has w/out question played more than two good games but I really don't pay too much attention to QB rating stats. It's more of an eye test, it's more of can he QB carry an offense, can a QB put the ball in the end zone. I think those are things that we are still finding out.

TH belongs in the NFL. It just goes to show that drafting a QB is incredibly difficult and it involves some luck. Haskins went to a big school and was on TV every week. He was a really good college QB and has a big arm. He had all the measurables. TH went to a tiny school, went undrafted and has a average to below average arm. He's probably be a terrible combine guy. I don't think there isn't any question as to who the better player is.
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Old 11-25-2021, 12:57 PM   #542
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I agree !
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Old 11-25-2021, 10:23 PM   #543
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Ok he has w/out question played more than two good games but I really don't pay too much attention to QB rating stats. It's more of an eye test, it's more of can he QB carry an offense, can a QB put the ball in the end zone. I think those are things that we are still finding out.



TH belongs in the NFL. It just goes to show that drafting a QB is incredibly difficult and it involves some luck. Haskins went to a big school and was on TV every week. He was a really good college QB and has a big arm. He had all the measurables. TH went to a tiny school, went undrafted and has a average to below average arm. He's probably be a terrible combine guy. I don't think there isn't any question as to who the better player is.
Completely Agree

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Old 11-25-2021, 11:57 PM   #544
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Ok he has w/out question played more than two good games but I really don't pay too much attention to QB rating stats. It's more of an eye test, it's more of can he QB carry an offense, can a QB put the ball in the end zone. I think those are things that we are still finding out.

TH belongs in the NFL. It just goes to show that drafting a QB is incredibly difficult and it involves some luck. Haskins went to a big school and was on TV every week. He was a really good college QB and has a big arm. He had all the measurables. TH went to a tiny school, went undrafted and has a average to below average arm. He's probably be a terrible combine guy. I don't think there isn't any question as to who the better player is.

As RR says, itís about APE (attitude, preparation, effort). TH excels there; Haskins not so much.


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Old 11-28-2021, 01:45 PM   #545
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https://youtu.be/Q-5mTPyHKRY
at 2:25 he says he has a noodle arm...made me lol
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Old 11-28-2021, 03:36 PM   #546
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Heís got one of the weakest arms in the league on passes 20 yards or more downfield but that doesnít mean he canít make those same throws.. itís about timing
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:05 PM   #547
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Heís got one of the weakest arms in the league on passes 20 yards or more downfield but that doesnít mean he canít make those same throws.. itís about timing
What stat or evidence of that is there? Seems like he is middle of the pack in that respect.

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Old 11-28-2021, 08:22 PM   #548
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How do you measure weak arm .. seriously do they have long ball contest , fastest throw etc .. I know TH has a flaw that a lot of QBís have , they throw off there back foot .. but in the heat of the play maybe thatís all they can do .. so whatís he gonna do tell the coach I took the sack because I couldnít step into it .. Some of the best Teams have short to medium pass game that relies on timing backed by a solid run game ..
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:31 PM   #549
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What stat or evidence of that is there? Seems like he is middle of the pack in that respect.

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He's 18 / 48 on throws 20+ yards downfield. Pretty bad
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He's 18 / 48 on throws 20+ yards downfield. Pretty bad
According to NFL stats he is tied with Big Ben with 29 completions for 20+ yards. Baker Mayfield has 30.

I know that may not be the same stat you are quoting, but I am also pretty sure most qbs completion on passes over 20+ downfield are low. They are generally low percentage passes.

I could not find the particular stat for comparison rankings though. (x passes complete out of y passes thrown)

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According to NFL stats he is tied with Big Ben with 29 completions for 20+ yards. Baker Mayfield has 30.

I know that may not be the same stat you are quoting, but I am also pretty sure most qbs completion on passes over 20+ downfield are low. They are generally low percentage passes.

I could not find the particular stat for comparison rankings though. (x passes complete out of y passes thrown)

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The one I have in 20+ in air, I agree with you though, it's not all about the deepball and its rare to hit on those. I'm a TH fan and hope he keeps getting better
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The one I have in 20+ in air, I agree with you though, it's not all about the deepball and its rare to hit on those. I'm a TH fan and hope he keeps getting better
What is Lamar's stats in 20+ in air? His seem like jump balls every time.

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What is Lamar's stats in 20+ in air? His seem like jump balls every time.

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Heinicke looks like 2021 Nick Foles. Comes in for the injured starter and plays well but by the next season he's nowhere. Heinicke is fools gold.
If he wins a SB like Foles I think we'd all take that.

All I know is TH is trending in the right direction, he's improving the more he plays. I don't think he changes the need for a long term solution here, but at the worst he gives us flexibility in the short term.
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