Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[rocnrik]

It’s a mess..I deleted my post because I realize I should not be commenting any more about a cancer issue .. I wish Trent good health and hopefully the team can right this ship ...

[SFREDSKIN]

You guys make your own conclusion:

https://art19.com/shows/redskin-talk

[rocnrik]

Bruce .... has gotta go...Nothing changes till that happens!!

[CRedskinsRule]

Williams should have come out publicly whenever he made his decision and said that due to irreconcilable differences over the handling of a personal matter he is asking that the Redskins pursue a trade. By staying publicly silent he was as negligent in this as the FO. And that is setting aside that this is a multi year health issue. We are not talking about someone with limited resources, who has to rely on work or govt healthcare. It was obviously not football related, and he should have seen specialists early on.

Only the Redskins could screw up something like this though, think of all the NFL critical catch propaganda, and even Mrs Snyder's own cancer scare.

Bottomline for me is it still seems like some things don't add up, and the Skins are going to find ways to screw it up more even if TW handled it poorly

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[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Williams should have come out publicly whenever he made his decision and said that due to irreconcilable differences over the handling of a personal matter he is asking that the Redskins pursue a trade. By staying publicly silent he was as negligent in this as the FO. And that is setting aside that this is a multi year health issue. We are not talking about someone with limited resources, who has to rely on work or govt healthcare. It was obviously not football related, and he should have seen specialists early on.

Only the Redskins could screw up something like this though, think of all the NFL critical catch propaganda, and even Mrs Snyder's own cancer scare.

Bottomline for me is it still seems like some things don't add up, and the Skins are going to find ways to screw it up more even if TW handled it poorly

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I agree with the bold part, it's tough to determine which side is at fault since we don't have full answers. However, there is one thing that is evident - Allen messed this up a big time. Williams emphasized that he doesn't have any issues with Snyder, in fact he loves him but refused to say anything when a reporter asked him about Allen. Allen obviously is on a power trip and tried to force Williams' hands in this situation.

Based on those comments and all other things we have seen since last few years, I'm starting to feel like Snyder has been mostly hands off in football operations and let Allen take care of things because Allen supposedly knows what he is doing.. At this point, I hope things will look bad for Redskins after NFL and NFLPA review the case because if they concluded Redskins failed to do the job appropriately, I don't see how Snyder keep Allen after this situation.

[SunnySide]

So what exactly is going to be independently reviewed? Whether the Skins medical staff committed malpractice by not timely or properly diagnosing the tumor like a reasonably competent doctor would? That Trent was notified and any delay was on him? That Trent could wear a helmet and is lying?

I wonder who pays for this third party review? Is this coming out of the NFL's operating budget? Im sure the other 31 owners are so happy about this latest development with the Skins.

Yesh ... should have just traded the guy. But no, Bruce wanted to get into a pissing match with the greatest Skin over the past decade bc after 8 seasons with this team .. god forbid a 31 year old perennial pro bowler wanted to get out of this rot and actually have a window at a championship or at least competitive football.

Fuck you Bruce.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

So what exactly is going to be independently reviewed? Whether the Skins medical staff committed malpractice by not timely or properly diagnosing the tumor like a reasonably competent doctor would? That Trent was notified and any delay was on him? That Trent could wear a helmet and is lying?

I wonder who pays for this third party review? Is this coming out of the NFL's operating budget? Im sure the other 31 owners are so happy about this latest development with the Skins.

Yesh ... should have just traded the guy. But no, Bruce wanted to get into a pissing match with the greatest Skin over the past decade bc after 8 seasons with this team .. god forbid a 31 year old perennial pro bowler wanted to get out of this rot and actually have a window at a championship or at least competitive football.

Fuck you Bruce.

I think Redskins is asking NFL and NFLPA to review everything in the bold part. I work in an integrated health center and we have a policy for whenever a patient got severely worst or died in our care (suicide attempt, bad medication reaction, and etc.), we will have a committee meeting to review the case fully and figure out whether if it was something we could have prevented or not, if so then what we can do to prevent it from happening again in the future. It is impossible to be 100% perfect with every treatment however, providers (doctors or medical staff) should do everything they can do to constantly improve their care. So, I think that's what Redskins is trying to find out, if it's something they could have done better or did they do everything they could do on their end.

[SFREDSKIN]

Someone is lying here:

Williams said no team official visited him at the hospital during his two weeks in Chicago, but former teammate DeAngelo Hall did.

A team source said head athletic trainer Larry Hess spent at least a week with Williams in Chicago. The source also said multiple team officials called Williams during this time and after he was released but those calls weren't returned.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Someone is lying here:



Williams said no team official visited him at the hospital during his two weeks in Chicago, but former teammate DeAngelo Hall did.



A team source said head athletic trainer Larry Hess spent at least a week with Williams in Chicago. The source also said multiple team officials called Williams during this time and after he was released but those calls weren't returned.

I found it so hard to believe that Dan Snyder didn't go see TW AND TW wouldn't have a problem with that. Given as hands on as DS has been with other high profile Skins; ie Sean Taylor's tragedy and RG3's surgery.

Imo, either BA tried to keep DS in the dark on all this, or TW is lying about some parts. BA's cryptic and egotistical response to why DS isn't talking to the media seems to lend itself to BA trying to keep DS out of the loop wherever he can

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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Someone is lying here:

Williams said no team official visited him at the hospital during his two weeks in Chicago, but former teammate DeAngelo Hall did.

A team source said head athletic trainer Larry Hess spent at least a week with Williams in Chicago. The source also said multiple team officials called Williams during this time and after he was released but those calls weren't returned.

Trent said a couple of things in his interview was contradictory, which is a sign he's been telling some lies. Perhaps not outright lies, but only telling parts of the story that support his narrative, while excluding others. This isn't unusual - i mean, we all do it to some degree.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I think Redskins is asking NFL and NFLPA to review everything in the bold part. I work in an integrated health center and we have a policy for whenever a patient got severely worst or died in our care (suicide attempt, bad medication reaction, and etc.), we will have a committee meeting to review the case fully and figure out whether if it was something we could have prevented or not, if so then what we can do to prevent it from happening again in the future. It is impossible to be 100% perfect with every treatment however, providers (doctors or medical staff) should do everything they can do to constantly improve their care. So, I think that's what Redskins is trying to find out, if it's something they could have done better or did they do everything they could do on their end.

I like the move by the Skins here.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

So, I think that's what Redskins is trying to find out, if it's something they could have done better or did they do everything they could do on their end.

Your organization sounds like a reasonable, proactive and intelligent group that is genuinely concerned and motivated to maintain a high level of care and performance in your field.

The Redskins are none of those things. Im assuming here but I assume the Skins are doing this as a fact finding mission to gather evidence to use against Trent and not for quality control purposes.

Either way ... seems like the respective parties are preparing for a long, drawn out trench warfare. Let the nitpicking and airing of dirty laundry begin!

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I like the move by the Skins here.

Yep me too. I want to know who made this decision - Snyder, the medical team, or Allen? If it's Snyder or the medical team, or other staff not named Allen then I would think it's the move they made out of concerns. However, if it was Allen then I would agree with Sunny below.

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Your organization sounds like a reasonable, proactive and intelligent group that is genuinely concerned and motivated to maintain a high level of care and performance in your field.

The Redskins are none of those things. Im assuming here but I assume the Skins are doing this as a fact finding mission to gather evidence to use against Trent and not for quality control purposes.

Either way ... seems like the respective parties are preparing for a long, drawn out trench warfare. Let the nitpicking and airing of dirty laundry begin!

I wouldn't be surprised if this is only reason why they made this move.. I'm looking forward to what conclusion NFL and NFLPA come up with, it will help us figure out which side (if not both) made mistakes. But it is very clear that Allen made this situation worse than it should have been.

[Chico23231]

Read this fake news headline from CNN:

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/01/us/...www.cnn.com%2F

Can you spot the fake news?

“NFL-er Trent Williams says he had a cancerous growth on his scalp and his team didn't do anything about it”

FAke fuckin garbage cnn

[rocnrik]

The whole damn title is total misleading.... cnn sucks ass!! You can have lumps that are not cancer that can over time change.. skin issues due to sun exposure.. mouth ulcers due to dipping , smoking.. you can’t tell me that the redskins knew that Trent had cancer and did nothing about it.. I’m taking a stance agianst that type of reporting ! It’s bull crap !!