Chase Young to reserve/PUP list; out at least first four games

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The problem is Herbert and Tua are both balling, playing at a probowl level and both considered best young QB in the league.

Tau has a headache

Now Herbert is legit but if he had come here he been a bust.

The skins were literally gifted two starting NFL QBs in the 2012 draft and they fawked that up.

Talking about anything to make this franchise better other then DS getting booted is a waste of time.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The problem is Herbert and Tua are both balling, playing at a probowl level and both considered best young QB in the league.

Yes, but as someone said, the whole Herbert thing is revisionist history. I'm pretty sure everyone here (including me), and a lot in the media, would have KILLED this team for selecting Herbert 2nd overall.

Also, maybe I'm pessimistic, but I don't think Herbert would have developed the same way he did with the Chargers.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Yes, but as someone said, the whole Herbert thing is revisionist history. I'm pretty sure everyone here (including me), and a lot in the media, would have KILLED this team for selecting Herbert 2nd overall.

Also, maybe I'm pessimistic, but I don't think Herbert would have developed the same way he did with the Chargers.

This is right. Herbert at 2 was never under consideration. There were questions about him because of the decline in performance his senior year at Oregon. That's why he slid to 7th overall. It was Joe Burrow the lead pipe lock franchise guy and then Tua and Herbert both showed promise but had questions.

The questions around Tua have borne themselves out: can he take NFL level punishment? Definitely had his share of injuries.

And with Herbert he just quieted the questions about his senior year and played like a stud. Face it the Chargers got lucky. There's a major element of luck involved here.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by MTK

Definitely need to chill with the bust talk.


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He had 7.5 sacks as a rookie and was gifted that ROY I feel with lack of better competition and the NFL rubbing the Snyders back for changing the name.

Young is literally just a guy, that's it. We all had much higher expectations as we should have but it's time to face facts. Dude isn't coming to save this defense and the last few times I've seen him play, we were NOTICEABLY worse on D with him on the field.

Besides, it's us. Did we really think we're going to get some talent and turn this bus around?

Not as long as dickhead is calling the shots.



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[jamf]

That’s harsh. I think he would have a bigger impact on a good team.
If he was on Buffalo and always playing with the lead, his numbers would jump off the charts.

You aren’t going to get sacks on a 4 win team.

[punch it in]

I think It is somewhere in between. It is half him underperforming (he was not good before the injury last year) and half him being stuck on a crap team.

[EdmundDorf]

It was suggested that Young was injured earlier in the season and that was limiting him before his ACL issue, certainly the whole D line suffered due to the breakdowns in coverage. With the way the rest of the D-Line is playing right now, when he comes back he should have no real excuses.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JGisLordOfTheRings

He had 7.5 sacks as a rookie and was gifted that ROY I feel with lack of better competition and the NFL rubbing the Snyders back for changing the name.

Young is literally just a guy, that's it. We all had much higher expectations as we should have but it's time to face facts. Dude isn't coming to save this defense and the last few times I've seen him play, we were NOTICEABLY worse on D with him on the field.

Besides, it's us. Did we really think we're going to get some talent and turn this bus around?

Not as long as dickhead is calling the shots.



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Please, the NFL isn't doing Snyder any favors.

CY had a legit rookie year, he was very impactful and deserved that honor.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by MTK

Please, the NFL isn't doing Snyder any favors.



CY had a legit rookie year, he was very impactful and deserved that honor.

I agree his rookie year he made an impact but I feel his ROY honors were more due to who he was running against there. Who else would have gotten it that year?

Winfield from TB? Jeremy Chinn?

Being the number 2 pick and the new supposed face of a franchise, he was going to get that honor as long he as showed up.

It's just my opinion that the dude is just that, a dude. With the absolute STUDS he has on that line with him, he should've been wrecking shit and he was more of a meh guy to me.

Not like Jamin Davis HFS WHAT IS THAT GUY DOING but still a meh for me.

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[SFREDSKIN]

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[skinsfan69]

Never believed in the hype machine that was behind Young. Good to really good player but not a generation talent that everyone seemed to be throwing around. He simply was never that and never will be that.

When you say generation type of player you are talking about Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Aaron Donald types of players. It wasn't even fair to Young to have that kind of label.

[That Guy]

maybe give CY some more time? feels like a bit harsh/early. ACL is an 18month deal anyways, so he'll probably come back and be a bit underwhelming this year. He's not Reggie White, but I think he is a quality player and not a bad pick.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Never believed in the hype machine that was behind Young. Good to really good player but not a generation talent that everyone seemed to be throwing around. He simply was never that and never will be that.

When you say generation type of player you are talking about Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Aaron Donald types of players. It wasn't even fair to Young to have that kind of label.

U May add Parsons too, he looks like the next great for 10 years. CY has no pass rush moves, he just uses his size and that don't fly in the NFL

[KI Skins Fan]

CY doesn't need to be Superman to help this team. I'm looking forward to getting him back.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

U May add Parsons too, he looks like the next great for 10 years. CY has no pass rush moves, he just uses his size and that don't fly in the NFL

I think Parsons is a great player. Not sure if he is an elite HOF type of player. Time will tell if he gets there.