Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[Schneed10]

How much we paid will say a lot. If Penn's making $3M or $4M then it means Bruce thinks Trent truly may not show up, or that he might trade him. If Penn's making closer to $1M then it's just a realization that Christian isn't ready and Flowers isn't a realistic option (no shit Sherlock).

[Schneed10]

Either way I'm relieved to see the investment in the depth, no matter what.

[Schneed10]

Let's not overstate things though, Donald Penn helps but he missed 12 games last year and he's 36. Even when he was on top of his game two years ago, he still wasn't Trent. Trent still has some leverage. But as the date gets closer to September eventually he'll have to make a decision, do I play for the $11M I'm contracted for, or do I give it up and sit out.

I still continue to think Trent will be back by week 1. Unless the Skins just paid a lot for Penn, in which case trade starts coming onto my radar.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Let's not overstate things though, Donald Penn helps but he missed 12 games last year and he's 36. Even when he was on top of his game two years ago, he still wasn't Trent. Trent still has some leverage. But as the date gets closer to September eventually he'll have to make a decision, do I play for the $11M I'm contracted for, or do I give it up and sit out.

I still continue to think Trent will be back by week 1. Unless the Skins just paid a lot for Penn, in which case trade starts coming onto my radar.

Good post. I think Trent will be there week one. How many times over the years have we seen 'camp holdouts' that actually holdout into the regular season? 1? Maybe 2?

They start losing REAL paydays in the regular season and will NOT leave that money on the table.

Reading into the Penn deal is not unlike Alfred Morris back in Dallas. A 1 year deal with zero cap hit. A warm camp body who will be released when Zeke shows up week 1 of the regular season.

When (not if) Trent comes back, unless Penn wows the world to a rotational spot, will get released as well.

A placeholder is all they are.

[skinsfaninok]

Penn is for depth, if he has to start for a while we will be doomed

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Penn is for depth, if he has to start for a while we will be doomed

He's a one year player, at most. At 36 he is ancient as an OL player. I'd rather see Trent get a little more money and play this season. His "cancer" scare may have got him thinking about getting his payday now.

[punch it in]

Penn makes me feel slightly better than I did....

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Penn makes me feel slightly better than I did....

same here

[skinsfan69]

Penn isn't the answer. He's done. If he has to play significant time it won't be good. Should have just given Ty the money and not overpaid Collins imo. You can get by with average safety play. A back up tackle who can play both sides is crucial. Especially on a team that has injury prone starters at tackle. That to me is more important than overpaying Collins.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Penn isn't the answer. He's done. If he has to play significant time it won't be good. Should have just given Ty the money and not overpaid Collins imo. You can get by with average safety play. A back up tackle who can play both sides is crucial. Especially on a team that has injury prone starters at tackle. That to me is more important than overpaying Collins.

Under the circumstances, having Penn is a lot better than not having him. He is better than Flowers.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Penn isn't the answer. He's done. If he has to play significant time it won't be good. Should have just given Ty the money and not overpaid Collins imo. You can get by with average safety play. A back up tackle who can play both sides is crucial. Especially on a team that has injury prone starters at tackle. That to me is more important than overpaying Collins.

Penn sucks, he’s a holding machine. Let’s get real the guy is 36, his best days arr way over.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Penn sucks, he’s a holding machine. Let’s get real the guy is 36, his best days arr way over.

good backup tho

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Penn sucks, he’s a holding machine. Let’s get real the guy is 36, his best days arr way over.

2017 wasn’t that long ago. Im holding out hope he can get us through the year. Because TW is never putting on a Skins uniform again.

[Chico23231]

Penn is fine as a swing tackle. The way Trent been missing time lately, I feel much better with depth at Tackle now. Flowers and Geron need to get their shit together. But we need Trent back in the fold pronto...he can’t be effectively replaced by anyone regardless.

[sevier2]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Penn is fine as a swing tackle. The way Trent been missing time lately, I feel much better with depth at Tackle now. Flowers and Geron need to get their shit together. But we need Trent back in the fold pronto...he can’t be effectively replaced by anyone regardless.

Exactly. It doesn't matter who we bring in, if silverback doesn't come back our Left Tackle position only gets weaker.