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Old 05-07-2020, 03:50 PM   #121
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Re: Former Trump Administration Employees

The FBI tarnished forever after this administration, Flynn investigation is a terrible look.

Jonathan Turley is a constitutional law professor at GW. Here are some relevant articles

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...me-of-justice/

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...violate-brady/
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Old 05-07-2020, 08:41 PM   #122
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Re: Former Trump Administration Employees

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The FBI tarnished forever after this administration, Flynn investigation is a terrible look.

Jonathan Turley is a constitutional law professor at GW. Here are some relevant articles

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...me-of-justice/

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...violate-brady/
chico , trumps puppet Barr drop charges against another trump puppet Flynn.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/depart...michael-flynn/
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Old 05-08-2020, 12:54 PM   #123
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Chico, I'm not gonna debate you on this, so don't bother responding. I firmly believe Flynn was guilty, and just because some FBI agent wrote that they had a choice to make over whether to trap Flynn in a lie doesn't make the FBI guilty of anything.

Just gonna leave this here:

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Barr and Trump hint at coming moves after Flynn is let off
Attorney General Bill Barr gave a television interview to defend his decision on Thursday to throw out the guilty plea of Michael Flynn for lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russians. “People sometimes plead to things that turn out not to be crimes," said Barr, who argued that agents did not have a legitimate reason to question President Trump's then-national security adviser.
CBS News’s Catherine Herridge asked how he thinks history will remember such a stunning reversal, which has irked many career prosecutors inside the Justice Department.
Well, history is written by the winner,” Barr replied. “So it largely depends on who's writing the history.”
The rest of the answer suggested that Barr intends to write it.
“I mean, it's not going to be the end of it,” the Trump appointee added, referring to letting Flynn off the hook. “We’re going to get to the bottom of what happened.”
Chico, I only hope that when the Dems get power again, whether it's 4 years or 8, you extend the same courtesy to us that you do this current administration. When a Democratic Congress tells Trump he can't nominate a SC justice because 8 months is not enough time to vet the nominee, or speed-rushes federal judiciary nominees that aren't worthy through the process to pack the courts, or even when the President's lapdog drops charges against corrupt Democrats because nothing, not even the judiciary, from the lowest federal judge to the Supreme Court, is exempt from partisanship anymore.

You're making the rules now, and you can bet your sweet ass we will play both those same rules when our time comes.
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:23 PM   #124
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Re: Former Trump Administration Employees

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The FBI tarnished forever after this administration, Flynn investigation is a terrible look.

Jonathan Turley is a constitutional law professor at GW. Here are some relevant articles

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...me-of-justice/

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/05/0...violate-brady/
Over the next few days, Flynn repeated the lie to Priebus and others in the White House. No sanctions discussions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, he told Mike Pence, the vice president-elect. He said the same to press secretary Sean Spicer. And they parroted that to the public.
“They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia,” Pence said during a Jan. 15 appearance on CBS “Face the Nation.

The denials set off alarm bells at the Justice Department.

Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, an Obama holdover, and other senior officials knew the comments weren’t true. U.S. intelligence agencies, which routinely monitor the communications of foreign diplomats, had learned of Flynn’s discussions with Kislyak when analyzing the Kremlin’s response to the sanctions. The FBI had also opened an investigation into Flynn’s relationship with Russia.

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Flynn pleds guilty to lying about having no contact with Russian officials pre-inauguration and lying that they did not talk about sanctions.

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GOP/WH, through the DNI, wont release the transcript(s) of the phone calls Flynn made prior to inauguration. Only leaking masking requests. As if making unmasking request is some kind of crime.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence reported that in 2019, the Trump administration had 10,012 unmasking requests fulfilled; 16,721 requests fulfilled in 2018, and 9,529 requests fulfilled in 2017.

During 2016, the last year of the Obama administration, there were 9,217 unmasking requests fulfilled.

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Obamagate - honestly, what the fuck is Trump trying to claim here? that his campaign was being secretly spied on by Obama?

In reality, your chosen National Security Adviser Flynn was talking with russian officials .. pre-inauguration. Then lied to Trump, Pence and everybody that you never talked with Russians and you didnt talk sanctions.

Trump fired Flynn for lying.

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What am I missing? How is this the biggest political crime of our country's history? They werent wire tapping Flynn, they were wire tapping the russians Flynn was talking to when he shouldnt have.

trump, the dude lied, you fired him. why now try and twist facts to make it seem like some huge conspiracy. mind blowing some people are buying into this. It doesnt even make sense. There are clearly no logical linked connections.

release Flynn's phone call transcripts ... let the public decide what to think of Flynn.

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ughh fucking american politics ... i hate you.

fox news .... i hate you. you are trying to spin spin spin this into something.

release the phone call transcripts and let the public decide.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:37 PM   #125
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Considering those calls raised widespread concerns about Flynn, Democrats like Schiff in turn pressed Grenell for the underlying documents. The transcripts Grenell has declassified, though, are for five phone calls Flynn had with Kislyak on Dec. 29, 2016. Flynn's specific call with Kislyak from Dec. 22, 2016, which was picked up in surveillance and later leaked to the press, is in the FBI's possession, a source told Fox News, noting that it was not in Grenell's jurisdiction to declassify.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gre...es-helm-as-dni

So the phone call that startled intelligence and started the probe won’t be declassified but other phone calls will.

I really hope trump doesn’t claim to the phone calls have been released and there is nothing there. Because ... that would be blatantly a lie, just ignoring the fact that the phone call that started all this wasn’t the one that was released.

If the fbi has it and it’s their decision ... I can only assume it was about national intelligence and defense ... other wise, why is this phone call being treated differently from the rest.

As the world turns ....
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