NFL Anthem Policy

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Uhhhh, it's not. When it comes down to it - players are free to leave and viewers are free to tune out. It won't happen. The first amendment states:







This is not being violated. You can not like the rule, and I understand why you dislike the rule. Everything about it is legal and I would guess that it would have significantly less ramifications than allowing the protests. Under the new rules, players ARE free to protest, but there will be a fine associated with it that they can pay if they like. My guess is the NFL will donate that money to charities that work on inequality issues.

By law you are correct but it is still a first amendment “issue” - maybe “case” was the wrong word to use. And again this is the NFL. Without the current 70% makeup of African Americans they have no product. The same can not be said for McDonalds. Those employees break the rules they simply hire new ones. The NFL players hold all the cards at the end of the day and there is no way they will follow suit with this bologna. No way.


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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

By law you are correct but it is still a first amendment “issue” - maybe “case” was the wrong word to use. And again this is the NFL. Without the current 70% makeup of African Americans they have no product. The same can not be said for McDonalds. Those employees break the rules they simply hire new ones. The NFL players hold all the cards at the end of the day and there is no way they will follow suit with this bologna. No way.


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So much wrong with this.
1) Clearly, the players do not hold all the cards. If so, they would have played them by now.

2) This has been made into a speech issue by the cynical media and an uninformed population because it is absolutely a work conduct issue. Players speech on the job is absolutely regulated on the job. Have you seen how the NFL regulates uniforms? There is no question that players could not put a "black lives matter" or "MaKe America great again" patch/button/sticker/piece of tape with crudely written magic marker message on their jerseys/helmets/socks/bandana/on bottom of their shoe.

This is an employee conduct issue. The NFL should have treated it as such. A simple rule like "During pregame ceremonies players shall stand in unison along the sideline. At such times, players shall remove their helmets, stand with their hands at their side or with their left hand over their heart." Then accompany it with the statement "In order to promote the NFL brand and consistent with the league's existing rules regarding conduct and aparrel, the NFL has decided to adopt a standard policy regulating sideline conduct during pregame ceremonies. Violations of the adopted conduct regulations will be treated in the same manner as uniform violations."

It's legal, it makes sense, and players who want to violate the conduct every game are going to start paying big fines in short order.

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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

By law you are correct but it is still a first amendment “issue” - maybe “case” was the wrong word to use. And again this is the NFL. Without the current 70% makeup of African Americans they have no product. The same can not be said for McDonalds. Those employees break the rules they simply hire new ones. The NFL players hold all the cards at the end of the day and there is no way they will follow suit with this bologna. No way.


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The problem with this logic, is there are players lined up to take their place and the players who would walk out or strike probably cannot make the same money in other careers.

They "need" their NFL job in the prime years.

I would never second guess someone from walking away or for cashing the checks, it's up to the individual to figure out what is best for them and their family.

The product would probably suffer briefly, but the owners and organizations are much better situated to weather the storm, even if it lasted for a whole season.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

The problem with this logic, is there are players lined up to take their place and the players who would walk out or strike probably cannot make the same money in other careers.



They "need" their NFL job in the prime years.



I would never second guess someone from walking away or for cashing the checks, it's up to the individual to figure out what is best for them and their family.



The product would probably suffer briefly, but the owners and organizations are much better situated to weather the storm, even if it lasted for a whole season.

All depends on how they stuck together. Do you remember the scabs? It was awful. Lol. Again once the nfl sees the ratings dip next year they will abandon this racist policy anyway. I wont watch a single game, and it aint even a slightly hard decision to make.


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[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by punch it in

All depends on how they stuck together. Do you remember the scabs? It was awful. Lol. Again once the nfl sees the ratings dip next year they will abandon this racist policy anyway. I wont watch a single game, and it aint even a slightly hard decision to make.


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The scabs were before my time.

I don't have any faith in the NFL players' union. They are the weakest union in all the major sports leagues.

If guys are still getting suspended for smoking pot in 2018, why would anyone think they could/would tackle something real?

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

The scabs were before my time.



I don't have any faith in the NFL players' union. They are the weakest union in all the major sports leagues.



If guys are still getting suspended for smoking pot in 2018, why would anyone think they could/would tackle something real?

Lol. I think this is something that will really hit home. They aren’t going to go to war over a blunt. This is different. They hold alot of power. They have to come together- and again after the bitch ass owners dont see a racist-...er uh ...ratings spike they will rethink that.


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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

All depends on how they stuck together. Do you remember the scabs? It was awful. Lol. Again once the nfl sees the ratings dip next year they will abandon this racist policy anyway. I wont watch a single game, and it aint even a slightly hard decision to make.


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... and I know several long time Ravens' fans that didn't watch a single game this year but have said they will now go back to watching games because the league "came down on the side of America." We'll see if ratings go up, down, or stay the same.

My guess is that as long as players AND owners forget we are watching sports for entertainment and not a lecture on political correctness from the left or the right, the ratings will continue to fall.

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

... and I know several long time Ravens' fans that didn't watch a single game this year but have said they will now go back to watching games because the league "came down on the side of America." We'll see if ratings go up, down, or stay the same.

My guess is that as long as players AND owners forget we are watching sports for entertainment and not a lecture on political correctness from the left or the right, the ratings will continue to fall.

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I do not know the Ravens fans you speak of, but id be willing to bet they never stopped watching. They, like Trump, talk a big game about being patriots but the are the furthest things from it.
I, on the other hand, promise you i will not tune in to anything where money comes before righteousness and as long as a bunch of rich white guys tell a bunch of black men that they may not “stand up” for social injustice- righteousness has left the building.


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