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Old 04-15-2019, 09:08 PM   #61
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Re: With the 15th Pick, the Redskins select...

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healthy QBs

and there is a good chance Smith will be cut before the 2020 season
Alex Smith's base salary in 2020 will be $16 million...what they can do is trade him to a team that will account for something around $10 million while the Redskins account for $6 million of his salary....that way the Redskins don't have to cut him and eat the whole $16 milion....and to add they can get a player or a mid round/late round pick in the deal.
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:02 AM   #62
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Alex Smith's base salary in 2020 will be $16 million...what they can do is trade him to a team that will account for something around $10 million while the Redskins account for $6 million of his salary....that way the Redskins don't have to cut him and eat the whole $16 milion....and to add they can get a player or a mid round/late round pick in the deal.
I do not understand this site, it says there would be a $32 million dead cap hit if Smith is cut in 2020.... no one will trade for him if he is not healthy

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Old 04-16-2019, 08:44 AM   #63
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Who the F would trade for Smith??
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Old 04-16-2019, 08:59 AM   #64
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Who the F would trade for Smith??
Sometimes we (even myself) need to think before posting. Alex Smith is probably not even playing again much less getting traded.
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Old 04-16-2019, 09:28 AM   #65
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I hope Redskins don't like Haskins that much.. Apparently some teams don't have 1st round grade on Haskin according to Mike Clay, so he probably will fall to us.

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Old 04-16-2019, 09:32 AM   #66
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I hope Redskins don't like Haskins that much.. Apparently some teams don't have 1st round grade on Haskin according to Mike Clay, so he probably will fall to us.

https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL/stat...25967124385792
Has only had 1 year of tape, played in a weak conference. Can't move and isn't the most accurate guy. Is he worth the risk at #15? Maybe but I'd rather have Grier at 46 if Rosen falls through
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:36 AM   #67
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Who the F would trade for Smith??
An Osweiler type trade of picks for cap space isn't likely but is possible with a team another team going through a rebuild with excess cap space.

I would rather have the picks and the cheap 1st contracts but crazier things have happened.

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Old 04-16-2019, 10:38 AM   #68
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Never say never but I'd put the odds of someone trading for Smith at 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000001
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Has only had 1 year of tape, played in a weak conference. Can't move and isn't the most accurate guy. Is he worth the risk at #15? Maybe but I'd rather have Grier at 46 if Rosen falls through
He reminds me of Culpepper in some ways even though like I said before, I don't watch college football much so I cannot determine if he has potentials. From what I have seen on the highlights, I wasn't impressed. If we are going to draft a QB that will need some time to develop, I prefer to use 2nd or 3rd day pick to draft a QB instead of investing 1st round pick in Haskins and then develop him.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:41 AM   #70
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An Osweiler type trade of picks for cap space isn't likely but is possible with a team another team going through a rebuild with excess cap space.

I would rather have the picks and the cheap 1st contracts but crazier things have happened.

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He reminds me of Culpepper in some ways even though like I said before, I don't watch college football much so I cannot determine if he has potentials. From what I have seen on the highlights, I wasn't impressed. If we are going to draft a QB that will need some time to develop, I prefer to use 2nd or 3rd day pick to draft a QB instead of investing 1st round pick in Haskins and then develop him.
He's a smart kid when it comes to X's and O's but overall he isn't ready to play at the NFL Level yet. To be honest I'm not sure any of these guys are, which is y I want Rosen
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Ridiculous
It is.

But it's less ridiculous than a poster on a Redskins forum claiming to know how QBR is calculated.

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Old 04-16-2019, 12:07 PM   #73
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He's a smart kid when it comes to X's and O's but overall he isn't ready to play at the NFL Level yet. To be honest I'm not sure any of these guys are, which is y I want Rosen
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Old 04-21-2019, 08:37 AM   #74
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Isn't anyone here concerned about Rosen's personality which I find to be obnoxious. It makes me wonder how coachable he would be as our QB. I feel comfortable that AZ will draft Murray but I'm far from comfortable with the idea of trading for Rosen.

OTOH, I really like Haskins and Drew Lock, one or both of whom might be had at #15. All three of these players will need to be developed. I wonder if some of us here are allowing ourselves to hope there is an instant answer to our QB dilemma when there isn't one.
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Old 04-21-2019, 09:16 AM   #75
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Isn't anyone here concerned about Rosen's personality which I find to be obnoxious. It makes me wonder how coachable he would be as our QB. I feel comfortable that AZ will draft Murray but I'm far from comfortable with the idea of trading for Rosen.

OTOH, I really like Haskins and Drew Lock, one or both of whom might be had at #15. All three of these players will need to be developed. I wonder if some of us here are allowing ourselves to hope there is an instant answer to our QB dilemma when there isn't one.
Valid argument. The only reason why I prefer for us to trade for Rosen instead of drafting a QB with our #1 pick is because of the situation we are in. (1) We already have so much money tied to QB position alone due to Smith and Keenum with nothing to show for it, and (2) it seems likely Gruden will be gone by end of season, that is unless he manages to pull a miracle season. The QB class this year is not that great according to lot of people. If we draft a QB with our #1 pick, whoever it is, we will still need to develop that player like you mentioned. In my opinion, it is not ideal for us to draft a developmental QB right when we expect to get a new coach next year, since he more likely would have to learn new offense system. We could become next Arizona next year if we draft a QB in 1st round pick this year, then we hire a new coach next year and he prefers to draft or sign his own QB instead of going with the QB we draft this year. Due to those factors, I prefer for us to use our #1 pick to draft an impact player who will contribute to the team immediately as much as a QB could (i.e., offense or defense playmaker), which a new coach would appreciate. Rosen was widely considered as one of top QBs last draft, and Arizona gave up a lot to trade up to draft him. Arizona is restarting all over again with new coach and naturally, a new coach wants to get a QB that he is in love with - it does not necessarily means Rosen is not a good player. Since Redskins have a bad history with our 2nd round picks, we might as well as use that pick to trade for Rosen since he fits Gruden's system well and it could give Gruden a chance to redeem himself.

I am not sure I buy the notion of Rosen's bad personality since most are from rumors. From what I have seen directly from Rosen's actions, it seems like he is being professional.
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