02-11-2020, 10:18 AM | #31 |
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Re: Dunbar demanding trade or release
I would look to sign Kendall Fuller and Logan Ryan in FA and trade Dunbar.
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02-11-2020, 10:28 AM | #32 |
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The newly turned Safety Kendall Fuller? Sure to come in and play next to Collins.. He's not a great Corner guys... We have a hard time letting former skins go lol. He had 1 good year
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02-11-2020, 10:31 AM | #33 |
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He had a pretty good SB and wasn’t used properly by KC.
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02-11-2020, 10:33 AM | #35 |
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In fact Fullers career Coverage grades.
2019 = 66.3 2018 = 70.8 2017 = 91.2 (GREAT YR) 2016 = 54.9 (VERY BAD)
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02-11-2020, 10:34 AM | #36 |
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Had a great SB, but they also have a damn good DC that has won multiple rings.. I wouldn't say they didn't use him properly, he just struggled in coverage.
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02-11-2020, 10:59 AM | #37 |
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02-11-2020, 11:10 AM | #38 |
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These numbers need to be properly interpreted. Trust your own judgment. We all saw what he can do when he is used properly. Besides, his 2018 and 2019 numbers were decent. Also, he probably won't cost very much so I think he is well worth the slight risk. Personally, I think he has the tools to succeed and I want him back.
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02-11-2020, 11:22 AM | #39 |
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Let's not overreact.
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02-11-2020, 11:50 AM | #40 | |
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02-11-2020, 11:58 AM | #41 | |
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Its crazy that people want get rid of Dunbar ASAP for using a standard negotiating tactic when they want to do whatever it takes to get TW back when his behavior was 100x worse. If the team isn't going to do everything possible to get rid of Trent, I see no reason why they would do that for Dunbar. Both are the best options we have on our roster at their respective positions -and by a decent margin. And Dunbar has said he would show up and play out his deal if the skins don't trade him. I'm not concerned.
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02-11-2020, 12:13 PM | #42 | |
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If Trent wants in and Dunbar wants out, then that says all you need to know about what each will add to the culture.
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02-11-2020, 12:41 PM | #43 |
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Entering last yr of contract + little guaranteed $ = probable holdout
Couple of thoughts - 18: numbers of games played out of the possible 32 last 2 years. Is he a guy that will play through pain? Will he play at 80% or does he personally require him being 95% and above? - 28 years old when 2020 starts, that not old. - 56.9% completion rate against this season. That is excellent. - 52: times targeted last season, thats low, 77th rank among CBs, could this mean J No just left to many guys open so a QB didnt have to look his way? That his sample size is too small to forecast future success comfortably? or is it just bc he only played 11 games. -------------------------- What I dont understand is the timing. Why now? RR just meet his staff for the first time on Monday Feb 10. He and his agent had to know that the new regime would need some time to get caught up and then address contract concerns. Initially I thought this issue of not having him resigned already was another Bruce failure to do basic communication with players. But then he says they did talk previously but he hasnt talked to the new regime yet. Perhaps he and his agent wanted to get his name circulating out there as early as possible so teams may consider acquiring him as they also come up with a FA plan. -------------- My bottom line - (1) I like Dunbar, I dont see him as the No. 2 overall best corner in the NFL like PPF does but I do acknowledge that they know more than I do with my fan eye ball test. If he wants a 5/65M/40G ... I think I would maybe might do that but that would really be stretching me. Much more comfortable at like a 4/40/30 deal. Which who knows, maybe he would have taken last year (2) I dont blame a player for contract efforts if they are going into their final year. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-ran...hrough-week-17
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02-11-2020, 12:53 PM | #44 | |
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You also falsely assert that Trent's beef with the team is over now that Bruce and Hess are gone. This is a blatant lie. Trent himself made it very clear this all started because he wanted to get paid and the team wouldn't do it. And why would they now? And why would he come back without it (since it was so important to him)? You are incredibly and optimistically unrealistic in thinking this will all be worked out so easily AND that Trent will be healthy and as elite as he was in his prime. Penn effectively filled in Trent's place last year. We already need one new starting CB... do we really think we can get TWO in free agency and the draft? We (stupidly) did not trade Trent last year when he created a tremendous distraction for the entire team. But now, a year later, there is atleast a chance he might come back. This would seem to justify not caving in to a players contract demands. Dunbar has asked for a trade, but he's made clear he's not going to be the cancer Trent was. He's not going to hold out. He's not going to miss games. He's not going to trash the team and be a distraction. Unless he changes his tune and starts imitating Trents low-character ways, there is no reason to move him.
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02-11-2020, 12:56 PM | #45 |
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Because ownership is not accountable to that same standard. Player can get a 5 year extension, then the team can release him 2 years into it if they want. Unless the NFL goes the same route as other professional sports with fully guaranteed contracts, this will continue.
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