Who will be the next coach of the Redskins and does it even freakin matter?

[rocnrik]

You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...

Couple of things to untie. Juts my opinions.

1. I dont think Jay didnt want Haskins, he just didnt want Haskins at 15 overall.

2. Id say the majority of fans agree that Haskins is not ready-ready. I think the fan divide is what is best for Haskins long term - (1) play the kid and let him learn by fire, he will only learn if he gets live reps, or (2) play the vets and bring the kid along until he is better prepared to read defenses, slide protections, etc.

3. I dont think many people are saying Haskins was a blown pick. Way to early to tell. I think fan divide comes into just how much of a project he is. Me personally, I think Daniel Jones starting for 4 years or so was way more prepared to start than Dwayne Haskins and his 14 games at OSU.

I think he is a project and even though he spurned the Terps and my view of Haskins is coming from a negative place .. his arm talent is there and he seems to hang tough in the pocket perhaps to tough to relaxed imo.

He has the tools, I just dont like him turning into an RG3 light with his liking of an instagram post of Jays firing and some other stuff. Apparently with RG3 in meetings he would repeatedly say "yeah I got it, i got it" then come game time not have a clue.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

You guys are on the mark for saying it won’t matter who the next coach is with Bruce/snyder in charge.. Case in point is haskins.. so The story is Jay did not want him but he was overruled .. Haskins does nothing in camp and pre season to convince Jay .. when he gets put in he plays bad .. Jay gets fired and the new coach doesn’t think Haskins is ready to play.. so are you guys siding with Bruce and snyder or do you think the coaches know more... my opinion is I trust the coaches more than the front office.. If Haskins can’t impress a coach to play him over colt and Case damn that means we blew a top pick yet agian .. and after realizing you guys are correct about Bruce and dan would that be a surprise...

Haskins was a unique player in college. He played such a limited amount of games, but played so well. It is unusual to see someone so good but with such a small sample size. If they didn’t take him at 15 he would have probably been gone before they got another chance.
So I don’t think we “blew” the pick. I think it is just typical Redskin luck that of all the quarterbacks who have been drafted high and plugged in as starters over the last few years that we got the one who only played 14 games in college......

[rocnrik]

Good points !!! It will be interesting to see this play out.

[SolidSnake84]

Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?

Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?



Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?

There is a fair shot if for no other reason than the Manusky situation from last off season; nobody else wants to come here.

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Is there any chance that Bill Callahan becomes the HC next year? Say if he were to somehow get the team to finish "respectable" at 7-9 or 8-8?



Does anyone know if Callahan even has interest in being the HC next season?

Indian Brave is that you? 7-9. 8-8? That is not ever happening.
Like D- Young said. There is a good chance nobody wants to come here and it is his by default. If he finishes 7-9 or 8-8 with this team not only make him the HC, put him in the ring of honor. Shit put him in the Hall of fuckin Fame.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well it is that time again, although this turn seemed a bit overdue. Gruden was terrible at calling plays, and terrible at selecting his staff. He failed miserably at selecting a DC. He was horrible at halftime adjustments. So imo he was the wrong guy, up against Dan and Bruce or not. Who will the next guy be? Who donyou want it to be? I cant stop thinking Urban Meyer. He isn’t currently coaching and Haskins and McLaurin are a draw for him.
Does it even matter though? Will DS and BA say all the right things about team control and than pull their strings from yachts and luxury boxes? Will the new HC have the insight to let DS know BA has to go?

I'm betting someone from Ohio State, who was the QB coach there when Haskins was there?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I'm betting someone from Ohio State, who was the QB coach there when Haskins was there?

Hmmm. Didn’t think about him. Went right to Urban, of course. Has some NFL experience too.

[skinsfan69]

If Haskins is a project, which by all means it looks like he is, then it was a bad pick. On a bad team you need that #15 pick to be playing. Instead he's playing behind a couple of cast offs who may be out of the league this time next year. Callahan today seemed like he wan't in a rush to play him and said he wasn't playing him against a pathetic football team that's tanking.

This one is on Dan if it doesn't work out. And he will take no responsibility for it if it doesn't.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If Haskins is a project, which by all means it looks like he is, then it was a bad pick. On a bad team you need that #15 pick to be playing. Instead he's playing behind a couple of cast offs who may be out of the league this time next year. Callahan today seemed like he wan't in a rush to play him and said he wasn't playing him against a pathetic football team that's tanking.



This one is on Dan if it doesn't work out. And he will take no responsibility for it if it doesn't.

Dan is the type of squirmy little piece of shit that will be a laughing stock for years and years and just constantly fire and blame others, than if fortunes ever turn he will be front and center taking all the credit.
Maybe he will get caught doing something illegal or racist and be forced to sell the team.

[jamf]

Relax on the Haskins bust talk. No one is performing well outside of Tress Way and two good games from McLaurin. There’s no realistic opportunity for success for our QBs this year.
TEs and RBs have virtually no production outside of CT junk yards. OLine is a mess right now with Scherff playing poorly because of injuries. Penn looks like he is starting to breakdown. Jay had no intention of playing Haskins and didn’t do anything to invest in his development. I’m not grading Haskins on anything that goes on the rest of the year. This isn’t a good situation to be in. OConnell isn’t McVay.

With that said, Dwayne needs snaps! Get the kid on a plan and roll him out week 9 when things settle for a few weeks.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by jamf

Relax on the Haskins bust talk. No one is performing well outside of Tress Way and two good games from McLaurin. There’s no realistic opportunity for success for our QBs this year.
TEs and RBs have virtually no production outside of CT junk yards. OLine is a mess right now with Scherff playing poorly because of injuries. Penn looks like he is starting to breakdown. Jay had no intention of playing Haskins and didn’t do anything to invest in his development. I’m not grading Haskins on anything that goes on the rest of the year. This isn’t a good situation to be in. OConnell isn’t McVay.

With that said, Dwayne needs snaps! Get the kid on a plan and roll him out week 9 when things settle for a few weeks.

He needs a lot of work for sure, yet I see lots of positives that he doesn't show any of the common glaring weaknesses high draft pick busts of the past have had. Even though 3 picks in a little more than a half are a disaster, I did not see him staring down receivers, fleeing the pocket before pressure, and making one read and if that is covered taking off running.

[Defensewins]

If there is one thing that interests me is not seeing Gruden’s predictable shit play calling and offense. Maybe see some I formation, maybe a FB. Not go immediately to three WR’s all the time. Be less predictable. Run the ball, be balanced. Play action.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

If there is one thing that interests me is not seeing Gruden’s predictable shit play calling and offense. Maybe see some I formation, maybe a FB. Not go immediately to three WR’s all the time. Be less predictable. Run the ball, be balanced. Play action.

I agree. Jay’s play calling was extremely predictable and the poor offensive stats show it. I’m really interested to see if O’Connell has any juice.


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