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Old 03-13-2023, 10:55 AM   #46
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Re: Commanders Free Agency Expectations

There are 22 non-ST starters. The goal is to have a good player at every position. Clearly no simple task. So when you do find a good one, you keep him if at all possible.
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Old 03-13-2023, 04:47 PM   #47
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I'm not sold on this. You don't pay a guy that kind of money for 1 good year out of 5. It's not smart. If he plays like he did last year, it'll be a value, but his history says otherwise.
I agree.

I like the player but don't like the deal. Would've preferred 2 years on the franchise tag. Hope I'm wrong but I suspect last year was the best we'll ever see from Payne.
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Old 03-13-2023, 09:17 PM   #48
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I agree.

I like the player but don't like the deal. Would've preferred 2 years on the franchise tag. Hope I'm wrong but I suspect last year was the best we'll ever see from Payne.

Maybe in the way of sacks but 11 is a lot for a DT. Trenches are where its won and lost.
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Old 03-14-2023, 02:25 AM   #49
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Maybe in the way of sacks but 11 is a lot for a DT. Trenches are where its won and lost.
you do have the question of who on that line is making whom better... did he get 11 sacks because allen and others ate the double teams? etc

obviously in a way everyone is helping everyone to some degree.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:25 AM   #50
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Locking up Payne surprised me, but I love the move. He's one of the top 5 players on the team, have to keep those guys. He's gotten better every year, he's durable, and will only be 26 at the start of the season.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:55 AM   #51
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I'm not sold on this. You don't pay a guy that kind of money for 1 good year out of 5. It's not smart. If he plays like he did last year, it'll be a value, but his history says otherwise.
1 great year and 4 very good ones. It's not like he came out of nowhere last year, he's been ascending since he was a rookie.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:43 AM   #52
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Locking up Payne surprised me, but I love the move. He's one of the top 5 players on the team, have to keep those guys. He's gotten better every year, he's durable, and will only be 26 at the start of the season.
Agree

We always complain as a community we don't keep our own then when we do it is a bad move; seriously people

I will say if CY ever lives up to his billing we probably won't be able to afford him considering the dollars we have invested in this DL. It is also a tell coupled with not picking up his 5th year that WAS doesn't believe much in him either; we shall see.

Waste of a 2nd overall pic, shame.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:49 AM   #53
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I think they'll use the option on CY, and he'll battle with Sweat to see who gets locked up long term. Don't think they can keep them both.
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A dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow. Keep who you can now and worry about the next guys down the road. Who knows what the situation will be a year from now. And every year teams just re-do contracts to create extra cap space. Glad Payne is here for the foreseeable future.
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I think they'll use the option on CY, and he'll battle with Sweat to see who gets locked up long term. Don't think they can keep them both.
Yup and right now Sweat has the edge in that battle.

I do think a trade could benefit both parties
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I think they'll use the option on CY, and he'll battle with Sweat to see who gets locked up long term. Don't think they can keep them both.
We donít have any OL or QBís to pay, it would be the equivalent of putting that money into those positions, they donít to worry for at least a few years. Look at SF, they have lots of players at multiple positions making bank. Roullier, Samuel, Fuller, Thomas can be restructured or cut.
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We donít have any OL or QBís to pay, it would be the equivalent of putting that money into those positions, they donít to worry for at least a few years. Look at SF, they have lots of players at multiple positions making bank. Roullier, Samuel, Fuller, Thomas can be restructured or cut.
exactly that is the nfl today

either all your money goes to a elite qb or you spread it around and hope you get a serviceable rookie qb or vet.

Philly and SF are in the spread it around camp (until Hurts needs to be paid)

KC is in the we have the superstar QB camp
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exactly that is the nfl today

either all your money goes to a elite qb or you spread it around and hope you get a serviceable rookie qb or vet.

Philly and SF are in the spread it around camp (until Hurts needs to be paid)

KC is in the we have the superstar QB camp
Should have added TE and LB too, SF is paying Trent, Armstead, CMC, Hargrave, Bosa, Kittle, Warner, Deebo.
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exactly that is the nfl today

either all your money goes to a elite qb or you spread it around and hope you get a serviceable rookie qb or vet.

Philly and SF are in the spread it around camp (until Hurts needs to be paid)

KC is in the we have the superstar QB camp
KC somehow managed to get a crazy 10 year deal done with Mahommes, which mean in a few years his deal will look cheap compared to other QBs.
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KC somehow managed to get a crazy 10 year deal done with Mahommes, which mean in a few years his deal will look cheap compared to other QBs.
Yes, but that doesn't stop him from holding out in year 4 or 5 for more money. The 10 years was for the team to be able to spread the guaranteed $$$ cap hit over more years lowering his cap number. smart move . . . for now, it will come back on them eventually. But how many super bowls will they win in the process?
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