Redskins, Cowboys could go “nuclear” over cap mess

[skinster]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

Could've, would've should've. Nonsense. You play to win, not for a better place in the draft! We're trying to build a winner, and you don't do that by losing. Ever.

Despite the fact that I think I just told you how losing a few more games would help build us a winner...I could go on and on about how so many of the great teams today are only good because they lost and had good draft position.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by skinster

Despite the fact that I think I just told you how losing a few more games would help build us a winner...I could go on and on about how so many of the great teams today are only good because they lost and had good draft position.

The only thing you told me is that you think the Skins should have lost more games. I guess you also thought that we should have gone 1-15 to join the "suck for Luck" club...

Losing is for losers, and your pining for a better draft position changes nothing. Name a team that tanked games ON PURPOSE to improve their draft position.

HTTR

[skinster]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

The only thing you told me is that you think the Skins should have lost more games. I guess you also thought that we should have gone 1-15 to join the "suck for Luck" club...

Losing is for losers, and your pining for a better draft position changes nothing. Name a team that tanked games ON PURPOSE to improve their draft position.

HTTR

First of all, we were losers last season, winning or losing a couple of games more or less doesn't change that.

Second of all, nobody said that we should tank games.

Third of all, I said that we lost three studs by winning 3 COMPLETELY meaningless games. You really think two firsts and the 37 overall are worth us going 5-11 as opposed to 2-14?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinster

Could have saved ourselves 2 first rounders and a high second by losing a few more games. I don't understand how you or anyone else can justify 3 wins in a completely meaningless season being worth three stud players. Maybe we should have made a deal with the devil and given offered Kerrigan, Orakpo, and Trent Williams as tribute to go 8-8 last year. Worth it?

I'm giving Picard a break in the offseason...

[NC_Skins]

Are people really sitting here discussing how the Skins should have lost more games last year??

[JPPT1974]

Well with RG3, hopefully the losing streak will end!

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Are people really sitting here discussing how the Skins should have lost more games last year??

Sorry guys, it's deep off season and I needed to amuse myself. Hopefully skinster is a gang of one. Don't think so, but I'm out.

Hail.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinster

First of all, we were losers last season, winning or losing a couple of games more or less doesn't change that.

Second of all, nobody said that we should tank games.

Third of all, I said that we lost three studs by winning 3 COMPLETELY meaningless games. You really think two firsts and the 37 overall are worth us going 5-11 as opposed to 2-14?

So can you tell us which games were involved when Shanahan said to the team in the pregame, "Men, this is a meaningless game."

The fact is that you play to win. 6-10 is better than 5-11. There may be games which are meaningless in terms of the playoff hunt but there are no completely meaningless games.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

So can you tell us which games were involved when Shanahan said to the team in the pregame, "Men, this is a meaningless game."

The fact is that you play to win. 6-10 is better than 5-11. There are no meaningless games.

........thankyou

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinster

Could have saved ourselves 2 first rounders and a high second by losing a few more games. I don't understand how you or anyone else can justify 3 wins in a completely meaningless season being worth three stud players. Maybe we should have made a deal with the devil and given offered Kerrigan, Orakpo, and Trent Williams as tribute to go 8-8 last year. Worth it?

yes, it would have been nice to have kept the 2nd 2012, 1st 2013, and 1st 2014. how should they have thrown 3 games? should rex have handed the ball off to an opposing defensive lineman? should we have played the games with 8 players on the field at a time? get real homie

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinster

First of all, we were losers last season, winning or losing a couple of games more or less doesn't change that.

Second of all, nobody said that we should tank games.

Third of all, I said that we lost three studs by winning 3 COMPLETELY meaningless games. You really think two firsts and the 37 overall are worth us going 5-11 as opposed to 2-14?

Hold on...im kinda hazy after tonight activites, but hasnt the draft already taken place..? Oh thats right we got arguable the best prospect in the entire class. So.......are we seriously still talking about tanking games after the draft has come and gone?

This is an Epic Fail and its being talked about in our Cap-gate thread? Double Epic Fail. wow

[44Deezel]

You can draft high #1s all you want, as the Skins have done for years, but you will suck until you get a QB. TW, Orrakpo, Kerrigan PLUS Rex EQUALS 5-11.

Patriots with One of the worst defenses in history, statistically speaking, PLUS Tom Brady EQUALS one Wes Welker drop from winning the Super Bowl.

It's simple math, people.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Patriots with One of the worst defenses in history, statistically speaking, PLUS Tom Brady EQUALS one Wes Welker drop from winning the Super Bowl.

They were middle of the pack in points allowed. That's the only thing that truly matters with defense. Who gives a shit if you give up 500 yards a game if the team only gets 15 points on the board.


Side note:

Why pinning that loss on Welker? Brady's throw wasn't where it should have been placed. Also, the safety in that game ring a bell?

It's funny. Brady loses a game, it's everybody elses fault.

Manning loses games, and it's because he's not clutch.


lol the logic in much of these types of discussions is hilarious.

[skinster]

Woah Woah Woah. Let me reiterate. I never said throw any games, and I'm not complaining about anything. If any team threw any game, that would be a mockery of the sport. At the same time, it was in our best interest to lose more games in a MEANINGLESS year, and as a fan I don't think it is unreasonable to want the teams best interest.

I'm not complaining. Simply commenting on someone elses post who said they have no idea why fans would have wanted our team to lose more games last season. All is said is so we could have 3 extra picks. I guarantee each and every single one of you would feel the same now about a 2-14 season as you would a 5-11 season. Both are equal in that they are wasted seasons, but 2-14 would have saved us two firsts and a high second.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by skinster

it was in our best interest to lose more games in a MEANINGLESS year

how should they have done what was in their best interest?