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09-22-2009, 09:54 AM | #16 |
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis
I think you are totally missing the point. This isn't some fancy statistical theory here. All the calculations are result based. He made the right decision. In that same situation 1000 times we win more games going for it both times than not because the outcome percentages, as long as they hold true, dictate it. All Tripp has shown is the mathematical algorithm that replicates proper human decision making in this situation. Which option gives us the best chance to WIN THE GAME? Going for it did.
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09-22-2009, 10:00 AM | #17 |
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis
It's always the right decision when it works. This time it worked acording to script, but the fact the Rams had no time-outs left at the time played into Zorn's decision. It may have been the right decision in conjunction with math, but I believe 90% of the coaches in the league would have kcked the FG in that situation.
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If we kick the field goal, then we give the ball to the Rams after a kickoff. The Rams could have run the kickoff back for a td. They could have thrown a td pass. Kicking the field goal would not wrap up the game the way that going for it and getting one yard would have. I personally liked the aggressiveness of the call to just put the game away right then, right there.
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09-22-2009, 10:29 AM | #19 |
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis
One thing I think we should acknowledge is our defense. That was a prime place for Blache to throw out some serious crap prevent defense and he didn't really. He made sure the secondary didn't let anyone behind them but he still maintained a relatively basic set. It was the right call.
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09-22-2009, 10:40 AM | #20 |
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Re: The only two Good Decisions Jim Zorn Made vs St. Louis
I don't recall seeing Smoot in the game. I saw Tryon though, any word on that? Anyway, I remember the Leigh Torrece/Avery bomb that beat us last year. I was scurrrrred.
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09-22-2009, 10:40 AM | #21 |
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Going for it on fourth and less than one yard was a good decision. I question the play call. I would like to have seen a quick hitter, quarterback sneak, fullback dive or halfback dive, not a stretch play to the most obvious side.
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09-22-2009, 10:42 AM | #22 |
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09-22-2009, 12:31 PM | #23 |
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Remedial statistics.
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Is it really a different game if they need a TD? Lets say they complete three or four passes and are at the 15 yard line as opposed to the 40 yard line becuase of your decision to kick. Do the Redskins really have a match-up that takes away the final 15 yards on the goal line? Any offense worth it's salt (which may or may not include the Rams) is just going to pump and go Hall for an easy 6. Your best chance to get the win is, unquestionably, to go for and get the yard. All the statistics show is that, if you happen to fail, the opponent still has a 4/5 chance of losing. It's a free play that should never be passed up. Of course, the viability of a stretch play where you need half a yard is certainly questionable, and should be questioned. That's a nice play if you have to score, but scoring shouldn't have been the primary goal there.
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09-22-2009, 03:26 PM | #25 |
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LOL , nice CRR . I just heard the NFL is considering giving the Rams a (W) and the Skins a (L) , because a fg ,,,, " would " have won the game . The only thing I would have done different had I been Zorn , I would have told the guys , " we are going for it " , if we fail , you are to report to Redskins Park @ 6 am for your wind sprints . We won the game 1-1 -0 , even an ugly win is a win
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I found this interesting.
Zorn's job security questioned on his radio show - Redskins 360 - Washington Times Quote:
Redskins Insider - What I Think: The Zorn Installment Quote:
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Nice find SS. There's always more to the story then people think. I think people are jumping the gun on thinking Zorns in over his head.
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09-22-2009, 05:09 PM | #30 | |
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I mean look at the Dolphins last night...they got a field goal and gave the ball to Manning with time left (not that Mark B. is P. Manning but still wouldn't want to take that chance).
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