Nyg postgame

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Was it their drive in the 4th or the OT drive (the roller coaster ride is running together and I can't go back and watch) when Sweat blew the coverage in the middle of the field?

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https://twitter.com/Giants/status/12...157761/video/1

^^ video w breakdown of the play.

Pre snap we have 8 men in the box and 3 corner/safeties in im guessing a cover 3 variation. I think Sweat was supposed to play zone and release Barkely but there is no one playing zone cover in the middle of the field. We ended up having 3 redskins covering a short cross route (Sweat included).

We all hate seeing our edge rushers like Sweat, Kerrigan, Preston Smith, etc dropping back in zone or playing man on a TE or even slot.

I think its just unavoidable sometimes. It still blows my mind that it keeps happening but it must be some kind of unavoidable situation where occasionally you will just have to have a Sweat covering a Kelce or Barkely type player.

I would call a damn TO if I ever saw my DE being responsible for anyone in coverage. But that goes back to our problem of playing 3-4 and making guys like Sweat an OLB when they should be hand in dirt 4-3 DE. Last year we played nickel the majority of the time but when we do line up 3-4 ... we dont get the pressure on the QB who can then pick on a Sweat or Holcomb etc.

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Run defense ... what the hell. Our D has been healthy all year, I think Payne missed a game or two, but that the fuck.

Allowing 141 yds/game .. good for the 4th worst run D in the league.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

https://twitter.com/Giants/status/12...157761/video/1

^^ video w breakdown of the play.

Pre snap we have 8 men in the box and 3 corner/safeties in im guessing a cover 3 variation. I think Sweat was supposed to play zone and release Barkely but there is no one playing zone cover in the middle of the field. We ended up having 3 redskins covering a short cross route (Sweat included).

We all hate seeing our edge rushers like Sweat, Kerrigan, Preston Smith, etc dropping back in zone or playing man on a TE or even slot.

I think its just unavoidable sometimes. It still blows my mind that it keeps happening but it must be some kind of unavoidable situation where occasionally you will just have to have a Sweat covering a Kelce or Barkely type player.

I would call a damn TO if I ever saw my DE being responsible for anyone in coverage. But that goes back to our problem of playing 3-4 and making guys like Sweat an OLB when they should be hand in dirt 4-3 DE. Last year we played nickel the majority of the time but when we do line up 3-4 ... we dont get the pressure on the QB who can then pick on a Sweat or Holcomb etc.

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Run defense ... what the hell. Our D has been healthy all year, I think Payne missed a game or two, but that the fuck.

Allowing 141 yds/game .. good for the 4th worst run D in the league.

Hah!!!

He was dropping on that play, but the one I recall was right before a scoring play where they targeted his man in the middle of the field for a significant gain.

I heard on Keim's pod today that we have been dropping bull rushing DE's in coverage as "OLB" for years. We've never had a true OLB.

And I'm not anti 3-4, I'm anti 3-4 with 4-3 personnel.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

https://twitter.com/Giants/status/12...157761/video/1

^^ video w breakdown of the play.

Pre snap we have 8 men in the box and 3 corner/safeties in im guessing a cover 3 variation. I think Sweat was supposed to play zone and release Barkely but there is no one playing zone cover in the middle of the field. We ended up having 3 redskins covering a short cross route (Sweat included).

We all hate seeing our edge rushers like Sweat, Kerrigan, Preston Smith, etc dropping back in zone or playing man on a TE or even slot.

I think its just unavoidable sometimes. It still blows my mind that it keeps happening but it must be some kind of unavoidable situation where occasionally you will just have to have a Sweat covering a Kelce or Barkely type player.

I would call a damn TO if I ever saw my DE being responsible for anyone in coverage. But that goes back to our problem of playing 3-4 and making guys like Sweat an OLB when they should be hand in dirt 4-3 DE. Last year we played nickel the majority of the time but when we do line up 3-4 ... we dont get the pressure on the QB who can then pick on a Sweat or Holcomb etc.

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Run defense ... what the hell. Our D has been healthy all year, I think Payne missed a game or two, but that the fuck.

Allowing 141 yds/game .. good for the 4th worst run D in the league.

I'm not a fan of our pass rushers dropping into coverage, but what I hate the most on that play is the way our LBs play zone coverage: they ONLY watch the QB's eyes... to the point where Jon Bostic has Saquon Barkley running right by him and he doesn't even know he's here, he doesn't cover him, doesn't pass him on, because he has no idea that he is here because he's not looking at his zone at all, he's staring at the QB...

That was why Zach Brown was so bad in coverage despite his speed, and we keep doing crucial mistakes because of it. Obviously it's a coaching thing because they all do it, and I don't get why.

I get that an experienced DB is gonna key QB's eyes and make play because of it, but wouldn't a LB, usually not great in coverage, be better of actually looking at receivers entering his zone rather than trying to read QBs' eyes and end up being manipulated by them ?