Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-07-2018, 02:07 PM

Bruce Allen.

skinsfan69 · 03-07-2018, 04:56 PM

Best QB we've had in a while but good riddance. You made a lot of money here, had your party w/ the fans after the season, put on a phony smile all while knowing you were leaving. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

Kope · 03-07-2018, 05:27 PM

Good ridance. Self serving douce. Football is a team game. Players on kurts team said he was in it for himself. We will never win a championship with players who care more about themselves than winning. A locker room united is more important than stats and plyer ratings. The skins management did enough to keep kurt happy if he was mature enough to be a professional. BTW several players on alex smith's team lamented his loss. Welcome alex. We will win more games next year.

CrazyCanuck · 03-07-2018, 05:31 PM

It's a shame that it had to end like this. Only the Skins could F up a good situation so badly.

Bruce Allen...often wrong but never in doubt...tried to bully you off the poker table with his pocket 3s. But you were patient and in the end you took his entire stack.

Best of luck Kirk, I'll be cheering for you.

Giantone · 03-07-2018, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

It's a shame that it had to end like this. Only the Skins could F up a good situation so badly.

Bruce Allen...often wrong but never in doubt...tried to bully you off the poker table with his pocket 3s. But you were patient and in the end you took his entire stack.

Best of luck Kirk, I'll be cheering for you.

Well said!

mooby · 03-07-2018, 06:46 PM

I'm seeing a lot of bitterness in this thread, but I guess that's the way ugly divorces go.

For me, 24-0 Bucs will be one of my favorite highlights of watching the Redskins, and we have Kirk to thank for that. Did he bring us back to dominance? No, but he's the first Redskins quarterback in 25 years to bring us back to respectability. If you want to give Gruden/Allen the credit for that, do it. As much as Kirk owes his "success" (air-quotes because half of you act like Kirk was an overrated bum) to Gruden/McVay/etc., they owe equal credit to him, for having some success on the field. Team sport gents.

Schneed10 · 03-07-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'm seeing a lot of bitterness in this thread, but I guess that's the way ugly divorces go.

For me, 24-0 Bucs will be one of my favorite highlights of watching the Redskins, and we have Kirk to thank for that. Did he bring us back to dominance? No, but he's the first Redskins quarterback in 25 years to bring us back to respectability. If you want to give Gruden/Allen the credit for that, do it. As much as Kirk owes his "success" (air-quotes because half of you act like Kirk was an overrated bum) to Gruden/McVay/etc., they owe equal credit to him, for having some success on the field. Team sport gents.

True. All I think we are saying though is there are a good 15 QBs in the league they could have done the same or better with.

I mean look at what McVay did with Goff.

Kirk was good. But I’m not sure we’re any worse today, and after free agency I think we’ll be better.

metalskins · 03-08-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

True. All I think we are saying though is there are a good 15 QBs in the league they could have done the same or better with.

I mean look at what McVay did with Goff.

Kirk was good. But I’m not sure we’re any worse today, and after free agency I think we’ll be better.

That's my stance. I would've been happy if the 'skins were able to sign Cousins to a long term deal. I loved Kirk Cousins. I loved what he brought to the team. But, he's not the elite quarterback the sports world is trying to make him out to be. I'm hearing things like, "Kirk Cousins will take a last place team and turn them into a first place team. Kirk Cousins will take a mediocre team and turn them into a Super Bowl team." There's been absolutely no evidence of that. Kirk has made the 'skins a better team, but he's not turned them into a playoff contending team nor a Super Bowl team. He requires a stacked team, he's not Tom Brady.

WillH · 03-08-2018, 11:07 AM

I've gone through the stages of grief on this one. The way things have shaken out, I'm glad we're moving on and have a plan that potentially can keep the momentum of the team moving upward without a reboot. I'm bitter towards Cousins. I think he's been a professional, but the fan in me is pissed that he didn't want to be our Franchise QB. I will root against him.

Why I'm so bitter isn't all his fault, yes the organization's decisions with him played a role, but he seems to have been a bit too sensitive if you ask me. I don't think I'd handle it any better than he did, but I'm not being paid ridiculous sums of money. All that said, I'm grieving what I thought was a Redskins resurrection.

As a fan I suffered through mediocrity, qnd when Gibbs cane back I thought, here we go, they're building something, not reaching, but building. Then it feel apart so quickly and tragically. After Sean Taylor was killed and Gibbs reretired, I tuned out for a few years, the team wasn't good and didn't seem like they were building on what was a rising team under Gibbs. I had a little hope when Shanahan came in, but it was when Griffin was drafted that I was synched back in. Finally, a Franchise QB. As that whole debacle played out I was sure that three wheels would fall off and I'd be taking another coupe years off from intent fandom. Then something wonderful and unexpected happened. Kirk Cousins. It was like a gift from the football gods. We still had a chance to keep building the team. I really liked that Scot and Jay pushed for him and I thought for sure this was an incredibly promising situation. They would grow together, win together, and maybe become something special. The, "you like that," game sealed it for me, Cousins was my favorite Redskins QB of all time, I believed in him, rooted for him, wanted him to be a Redskin for life.

Again, I know the FO played a role in losing him, and we really don't know the entire dynamic of why he wanted to leave, but looking back I feel betrayed by him that he didn't try to work it out and was content in getting what he could out of the organization through the Tag with no intention on building something here other than his value. All last season, and even immediately after his charity ever, I was in denial thinking they would work it out. That he wanted to be here but was playing coy trying to get the best contract he could, but that he wanted to be here.

Believe me, if it comes out that there was a lot of weird underhanded shit going on behind the scenes, which wouldn't surprise me about this organization, I will be just as disenchanted with the Redskins as I have been in the past. Even now I'm upset and want to know why they couldn't work things out with him. But from where I'm standing right now, it appears that Kirk Cousins was not invested in anything but his own career. Do I blame him as a man? No. But I am disgusted with him as a fan because he chose not to fight for me and the rest of the fans here. I also think he will always have marginal success if he doesn't learn to invest in those around him. I really do hope he learns that lesson the hard way.

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Buffalo Bob · 03-09-2018, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WillH

I think he's been a professional, but the fan in me is pissed that he didn't want to be our Franchise QB. I will root against him.

Why I'm so bitter isn't all his fault, yes the organization's decisions with him played a role, but he seems to have been a bit too sensitive if you ask me.

Alex Smith in San Francisco started as a rookie on a team with few NFL caliber players, had head coach Nolan publicly calling him a wimp in year 3 while playing needing throwing shoulder surgery, then lost his job to Colin Kaepernick getting a concussion while having a career year. Through it all he said nothing negative to the media, soldiered on and was a great teammate. I think if Cousins had Smith's personality things would have been different.

WillH · 03-09-2018, 09:30 AM

Bag of dicks. Pants down . . . I mean hands down.

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HailGreen28 · 03-09-2018, 04:05 PM

Best of wishes to Kirk Cousins.

He, and we the fans, deserved better from our crappy front office.

Ruhskins · 03-09-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Best of wishes to Kirk Cousins.

He, and we the fans, deserved better from our crappy front office.

Because 40 million dollars in two years is crap.

HailGreen28 · 03-09-2018, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Because 40 million dollars in two years is crap.

The Skins could have had him for cheaper, but Allen wanted to play hardball.

So yeah, overpaying him two years, then letting him walk for nothing really is crap.

Ruhskins · 03-09-2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

The Skins could have had him for cheaper, but Allen wanted to play hardball.

But that doesn't mean Cousins got crap from the team. He got 40 million dollars from the team.

03-07-2018, 02:07 PM	#1
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread Bruce Allen. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-07-2018, 04:56 PM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,138	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread Best QB we've had in a while but good riddance. You made a lot of money here, had your party w/ the fans after the season, put on a phony smile all while knowing you were leaving. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

03-07-2018, 05:27 PM	#3
Kope Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NC Posts: 447	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread Good ridance. Self serving douce. Football is a team game. Players on kurts team said he was in it for himself. We will never win a championship with players who care more about themselves than winning. A locker room united is more important than stats and plyer ratings. The skins management did enough to keep kurt happy if he was mature enough to be a professional. BTW several players on alex smith's team lamented his loss. Welcome alex. We will win more games next year.

03-07-2018, 05:31 PM	#4
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread It's a shame that it had to end like this. Only the Skins could F up a good situation so badly. Bruce Allen...often wrong but never in doubt...tried to bully you off the poker table with his pocket 3s. But you were patient and in the end you took his entire stack. Best of luck Kirk, I'll be cheering for you.

03-07-2018, 06:46 PM	#6
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,324	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread I'm seeing a lot of bitterness in this thread, but I guess that's the way ugly divorces go. For me, 24-0 Bucs will be one of my favorite highlights of watching the Redskins, and we have Kirk to thank for that. Did he bring us back to dominance? No, but he's the first Redskins quarterback in 25 years to bring us back to respectability. If you want to give Gruden/Allen the credit for that, do it. As much as Kirk owes his "success" (air-quotes because half of you act like Kirk was an overrated bum) to Gruden/McVay/etc., they owe equal credit to him, for having some success on the field. Team sport gents.

03-08-2018, 11:07 AM	#9
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,590	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread I've gone through the stages of grief on this one. The way things have shaken out, I'm glad we're moving on and have a plan that potentially can keep the momentum of the team moving upward without a reboot. I'm bitter towards Cousins. I think he's been a professional, but the fan in me is pissed that he didn't want to be our Franchise QB. I will root against him. Why I'm so bitter isn't all his fault, yes the organization's decisions with him played a role, but he seems to have been a bit too sensitive if you ask me. I don't think I'd handle it any better than he did, but I'm not being paid ridiculous sums of money. All that said, I'm grieving what I thought was a Redskins resurrection. As a fan I suffered through mediocrity, qnd when Gibbs cane back I thought, here we go, they're building something, not reaching, but building. Then it feel apart so quickly and tragically. After Sean Taylor was killed and Gibbs reretired, I tuned out for a few years, the team wasn't good and didn't seem like they were building on what was a rising team under Gibbs. I had a little hope when Shanahan came in, but it was when Griffin was drafted that I was synched back in. Finally, a Franchise QB. As that whole debacle played out I was sure that three wheels would fall off and I'd be taking another coupe years off from intent fandom. Then something wonderful and unexpected happened. Kirk Cousins. It was like a gift from the football gods. We still had a chance to keep building the team. I really liked that Scot and Jay pushed for him and I thought for sure this was an incredibly promising situation. They would grow together, win together, and maybe become something special. The, "you like that," game sealed it for me, Cousins was my favorite Redskins QB of all time, I believed in him, rooted for him, wanted him to be a Redskin for life. Again, I know the FO played a role in losing him, and we really don't know the entire dynamic of why he wanted to leave, but looking back I feel betrayed by him that he didn't try to work it out and was content in getting what he could out of the organization through the Tag with no intention on building something here other than his value. All last season, and even immediately after his charity ever, I was in denial thinking they would work it out. That he wanted to be here but was playing coy trying to get the best contract he could, but that he wanted to be here. Believe me, if it comes out that there was a lot of weird underhanded shit going on behind the scenes, which wouldn't surprise me about this organization, I will be just as disenchanted with the Redskins as I have been in the past. Even now I'm upset and want to know why they couldn't work things out with him. But from where I'm standing right now, it appears that Kirk Cousins was not invested in anything but his own career. Do I blame him as a man? No. But I am disgusted with him as a fan because he chose not to fight for me and the rest of the fans here. I also think he will always have marginal success if he doesn't learn to invest in those around him. I really do hope he learns that lesson the hard way. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ You like that! You like that!

03-09-2018, 09:30 AM	#11
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,590	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread Bag of dicks. Pants down . . . I mean hands down. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ You like that! You like that!

03-09-2018, 04:05 PM	#12
HailGreen28 Playmaker Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,754	Re: Thank You Kirk Cousins Thread Best of wishes to Kirk Cousins. He, and we the fans, deserved better from our crappy front office.

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