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05-01-2018, 01:16 PM
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Re: Bruce Allen Thinks Everyone Should Be Judged By Their Record?? Ok.
8 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It hasn't been overnight. It's excuse after excuse, year after year. OMG i'm having a brain aneurysm. Tell my family I want "F... Bruce Allen" on my tombstone. |
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05-01-2018, 01:18 PM
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05-01-2018, 01:22 PM
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05-01-2018, 02:44 PM
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Does he have a 10 year plan? |
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05-01-2018, 02:11 PM
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And it wouldn't bother me if he left or was fired.
He isn't the boogeyman everybody makes him out to be. All the ills would not be cured if he left... And the is a real possibility the next guy might be worse. Garcon and Jackson didn't dio a whole lot this year. Garcon is old and hurt, and I am a huge fan, but he was over paid. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
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05-01-2018, 02:49 PM
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I agree with jamf, in 8 years we have not made the progress we should have by now. Hell, it only took the Eagles a couple years to get rid of the Chip Kelly smell and win a SB.
I really liked the draft we had this year and am willing to give him his share of credit for it. But how much credit does he deserve when Gruden/Williams also eat at the table too? Not to mention the scouts, and everyone else who contributed. The last draft has made me tone down the BA hate I had, especially for failing with Kirk, but the future does look better for this team. So yeah overall the body of work looks like he's had more than enough time to build a winner, but the developments of this offseason actually make it look like we're building a winner. But how many people really think he's here for his football acumen? Are we now trying to give him the credit for roster building when the only thing he's ever been known for is being good on the business side? TL;DR: With the vague definition of how much credit he deserves for where we're at today, idc if he walks. |
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05-01-2018, 02:51 PM
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It’s quite possibly a make or break year for Allen. Anything less than the playoffs will be a failure and changes could come
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05-01-2018, 04:03 PM
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When it comes to BA, it pretty much boils down to this.
He replaced Vinny Cerrato. Thus, he was an improvement over his predecessor. However, as I have said before, replacing a giant, garbage pail full of stinking sh** with a smaller, less smelly pile of sh**, still leaves you with a pile of sh**.
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05-01-2018, 11:08 PM
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05-01-2018, 04:04 PM
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Also, as someone else on twitter pointed out to me, the drafts actually started improving when Gruden came on board and started having a say in the draft board.
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05-02-2018, 09:38 AM
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Knowing you're never going to hit on every single player, still, there are a couple drafts where one could easily say they deserve a big fat F. One editorial I read (it was a Raiders editorial so take it for what it's worth) claimed that Allen hasn't been a part of the player personnel since 2015. I don't believe that, because obviously, Williams will tell you Bruce has still been heavily involved. If Allen has taken somewhat of a backseat, then I'm not sure we can say it's a coincidence that the drafts have been on an upward trajectory.
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05-02-2018, 07:43 PM
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This is a fantastic observation. Our best drafts from top to bottom have been with Gruden. I read he stood on the table for Ionnidas and did this year for the 7th round receiver. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
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05-02-2018, 08:49 PM
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