Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread

BaltimoreSkins · 12-20-2022, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He's an idiot if he thinks it will be different with Wentz in there. He probably would have been sacked 9 times against the Giants.

I know you are a big Howell advocate so I'd like your take. My take with Howell is if he isn't being considered to start it is because he hasn't shown he has what it takes in practice. There is a gap either in running the offense or playbook understanding that we are not privy to knowing. The other option is that the coaching staff is stubbornly plugging along with square pegs in round holes.

EdmundDorf · 12-20-2022, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I know you are a big Howell advocate so I'd like your take. My take with Howell is if he isn't being considered to start it is because he hasn't shown he has what it takes in practice. There is a gap either in running the offense or playbook understanding that we are not privy to knowing. The other option is that the coaching staff is stubbornly plugging along with square pegs in round holes.

I wouldn't rule out the latter option. Though it feels like it would be more accurately stated as "square heads in butt holes". Am I sounding disenchanted?..... first bids for the team due Friday apparently.

Redskins247 · 12-20-2022, 08:58 AM

Rivera is not going to play Howell in the middle of a playoff run...period. Maybe against SF, which I think they have no chance of winning, they bring in Wentz on some first down plays...let him hand off a few times, and throw it a few times taking some big shots...on first downs SF won't know if they're running or passing, could be a good curveball. They need to pull out all the tricks for this one. If Wentz hits a few big pass plays, could be the difference.

Ruhskins · 12-20-2022, 09:03 AM

I really don't see what TH is doing that is very different from Wentz. He's not using his legs to buy time or to scramble for yards, he's getting sacked a lot, and he's throwing deep passes he can't make.

IF we go to Wentz, they need to commit to the run, play the short/intermediate passing game, and take some deep shots once you've established the run.

B. Rob was averaging 7 yards per run vs. the Giants and he ran the ball 12 times. That is RIDICULOUS and the coaching staff needs to be accountable for not playing to their strengths. B. Rob needs to have at least 20 runs per game. No QB is going to be successful if this stupid coaching staff doesn't run the ball.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-20-2022, 09:48 AM

Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/...aA07maE8WJxRrw

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-20-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/...aA07maE8WJxRrw

Can-crushing is for winners.

mredskins · 12-20-2022, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Taylor getting some love at Caps game last night while he chugs water and crushes can against head.

https://twitter.com/Capitals/status/...aA07maE8WJxRrw

Awesome guy is so awesome. He is your QB1 if you like losing football.

mredskins · 12-20-2022, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I really don't see what TH is doing that is very different from Wentz. He's not using his legs to buy time or to scramble for yards, he's getting sacked a lot, and he's throwing deep passes he can't make.

IF we go to Wentz, they need to commit to the run, play the short/intermediate passing game, and take some deep shots once you've established the run.

B. Rob was averaging 7 yards per run vs. the Giants and he ran the ball 12 times. That is RIDICULOUS and the coaching staff needs to be accountable for not playing to their strengths. B. Rob needs to have at least 20 runs per game. No QB is going to be successful if this stupid coaching staff doesn't run the ball.

Agree and Wentz didn't have B Rob when he was starting, i swear opposing D coordinators are like yes they are going TH for our game no need to game plan for the long ball.

Chico23231 · 12-20-2022, 09:59 AM

Wrong thread

SunnySide · 12-20-2022, 10:33 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sB3XXtAMiw

Craig Hoffman and Logan Paulsen instant reaction podcast to SNF loss.

Started by saying we ran a lot of duo run plays to start game.

https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/05/10/duo-concept/

^^ breaks down what a duo run play is, seems to be our meat and butter. Run a counter off it.

Last night I heard Rons presser and he said our offensive identify is running the ball and play action. My instant reaction was .. wtf, we dont call PA passes?!? We should, run game should be happily married to the PA. We called one Sunday night and it was flea flicker variety.

4 min in Logan is saying we are back to this "off set run token fake" play action which doesnt work

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-20-2022, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sB3XXtAMiw

Craig Hoffman and Logan Paulsen instant reaction podcast to SNF loss.

Started by saying we ran a lot of duo run plays to start game.

https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/05/10/duo-concept/

^^ breaks down what a duo run play is, seems to be our meat and butter. Run a counter off it.

Last night I heard Rons presser and he said our offensive identify is running the ball and play action. My instant reaction was .. wtf, we dont call PA passes?!? We should, run game should be happily married to the PA. We called one Sunday night and it was flea flicker variety.

4 min in Logan is saying we are back to this "off set run token fake" play action which doesnt work

I wasn't even familiar with the term "duo run play" until yesterday.

https://coachtube.com/football/artic...n-scheme---duo

MTK · 12-20-2022, 10:52 AM

Jay Gruden loved him some duo

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-20-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Jay Gruden loved him some duo

I need to read the updated "The Running Game for Dummies".

EdmundDorf · 12-20-2022, 10:57 AM

Also being discussed on twitter

John Keim on Twitter

In the last 3 games, Brian Robinson has rushed for a combined 290 yards (9th in nfl) and averaged 5.69 yards per carry (10th). Has 1 carry for 2 yards in red zone (TD run nullified by the McLaurin penalty). Wash has thrown 13 RZ passes (+ 1 scramble) to 5 runs in this stretch.

Ruhskins · 12-20-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Also being discussed on twitter

John Keim on Twitter

In the last 3 games, Brian Robinson has rushed for a combined 290 yards (9th in nfl) and averaged 5.69 yards per carry (10th). Has 1 carry for 2 yards in red zone (TD run nullified by the McLaurin penalty). Wash has thrown 13 RZ passes (+ 1 scramble) to 5 runs in this stretch.

This is f*cking ridiculous.

12-20-2022, 08:58 AM	#108
Redskins247 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 864	Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread Rivera is not going to play Howell in the middle of a playoff run...period. Maybe against SF, which I think they have no chance of winning, they bring in Wentz on some first down plays...let him hand off a few times, and throw it a few times taking some big shots...on first downs SF won't know if they're running or passing, could be a good curveball. They need to pull out all the tricks for this one. If Wentz hits a few big pass plays, could be the difference.

12-20-2022, 09:03 AM	#109
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,216	Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread I really don't see what TH is doing that is very different from Wentz. He's not using his legs to buy time or to scramble for yards, he's getting sacked a lot, and he's throwing deep passes he can't make. IF we go to Wentz, they need to commit to the run, play the short/intermediate passing game, and take some deep shots once you've established the run. B. Rob was averaging 7 yards per run vs. the Giants and he ran the ball 12 times. That is RIDICULOUS and the coaching staff needs to be accountable for not playing to their strengths. B. Rob needs to have at least 20 runs per game. No QB is going to be successful if this stupid coaching staff doesn't run the ball. __________________ R.I.P. #21

12-20-2022, 09:48 AM	#110
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12-20-2022, 09:59 AM	#114
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12-20-2022, 10:33 AM	#115
SunnySide Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 4,568	Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sB3XXtAMiw Craig Hoffman and Logan Paulsen instant reaction podcast to SNF loss. Started by saying we ran a lot of duo run plays to start game. https://weeklyspiral.com/2021/05/10/duo-concept/ ^^ breaks down what a duo run play is, seems to be our meat and butter. Run a counter off it. Last night I heard Rons presser and he said our offensive identify is running the ball and play action. My instant reaction was .. wtf, we dont call PA passes?!? We should, run game should be happily married to the PA. We called one Sunday night and it was flea flicker variety. 4 min in Logan is saying we are back to this "off set run token fake" play action which doesnt work __________________ 19,937 car accidents a day in the US. Buy a dash camera for everyone you love. Insurance companies are increasingly denying claims.

12-20-2022, 10:52 AM	#117
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12-20-2022, 10:57 AM	#119
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,914	Re: Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread Also being discussed on twitter John Keim on Twitter In the last 3 games, Brian Robinson has rushed for a combined 290 yards (9th in nfl) and averaged 5.69 yards per carry (10th). Has 1 carry for 2 yards in red zone (TD run nullified by the McLaurin penalty). Wash has thrown 13 RZ passes (+ 1 scramble) to 5 runs in this stretch.

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