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Old 07-03-2019, 07:47 AM   #61
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

I'm over the dude, time to move on. Rather have Sims and Harris take his role
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Old 07-03-2019, 09:05 AM   #62
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

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"We just have to get hopefully more production for [Doctson] and he gets more opportunities," Redskins coach Jay Gruden said. "I can't promise he's going to get a ton of opportunities with the group of guys that we have. With Jordan Reed and Chris Thompson healthy, they're still going get their opportunities. With watching Terry play, he's going to get his, and we haven't even talked about Paul. Trey Quinn is going to get some. The whole intent of this offense is to spread the ball around."

Find your role in the offense. This how other teams have to operate when you don't have a Julio Jones type talent at the #1
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Old 07-03-2019, 12:15 PM   #63
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"We just have to get hopefully more production for [Doctson] and he gets more opportunities," Redskins coach Jay Gruden said. "I can't promise he's going to get a ton of opportunities with the group of guys that we have. With Jordan Reed and Chris Thompson healthy, they're still going get their opportunities. With watching Terry play, he's going to get his, and we haven't even talked about Paul. Trey Quinn is going to get some. The whole intent of this offense is to spread the ball around."

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Jordan Reed healthy? Pipe Dream.
In what world does Gruden live in?
This is why our team has issues. Our head coach and FO are actually counting on Jordan Reed to be healthy. What a joke. Reed will have a concussion and strained leg muscle by game 3. If they even let him play. Chances are they will not play him in training Camp and Preseason and wait until game 1 to play him in full contact football.
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Jordan Reed healthy? Pipe Dream.
In what world does Gruden live in?
This is why our team has issues. Our head coach and FO are actually counting on Jordan Reed to be healthy. What a joke. Reed will have a concussion and strained leg muscle by game 3. If they even let him play. Chances are they will not play him in training Camp and Preseason and wait until game 1 to play him in full contact football.
Yeah I keep seeing articles saying how important Reed is to the 2019 team... If they are banking on his glass made self we are screwed.
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Old 07-03-2019, 02:28 PM   #65
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Yeah I keep seeing articles saying how important Reed is to the 2019 team... If they are banking on his glass made self we are screwed.
I just don't get why he is still on the roster with a 2019 cap hit of $9,674,125.
It is only $3,600,000 cap hit if we release him right now.
That would save us $6,074,125 in cap space and I would sign sign a real LG or a back up LT or a real blocking TE.
Reed's cap hit in 2020 will be $10,300,000.
His cap hit if we release him then will only be $1,800,000.
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Old 07-04-2019, 12:10 AM   #66
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I just don't get why he is still on the roster with a 2019 cap hit of $9,674,125.
It is only $3,600,000 cap hit if we release him right now.
That would save us $6,074,125 in cap space and I would sign sign a real LG or a back up LT or a real blocking TE.
Reed's cap hit in 2020 will be $10,300,000.
His cap hit if we release him then will only be $1,800,000.
He hasn't been traded because no one would be interested in him....he hasn't been cut because the coaches still have a glint of hope that he will be more than productive in 2019.....or they could be looking to cut him during the preseason when the first signs show that he is being outshined by three or four other WRs.....
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:36 PM   #67
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

Reed is still here because until else someone steps up, he's easily our most proven target (when healthy of course).
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

Let's face it - Doctson is a draft bust. The only reason he's still on the team is because we keep letting 1,000 yd WRs move on to other teams. It will be tough to watch DeSean Jackson play against us, back with the Eagles, when we could have kept him. Instead, we keep waiting for the mystical miracle of Doctson playing to his "supposed potential".

He won't be here next year, because he doesn't have what it takes to be a good or even very good WR in the NFL.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:34 PM   #69
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This is it for Doctson,put up or get out,another wasted draft choice.
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"We just have to get hopefully more production for [Doctson] and he gets more opportunities," Redskins coach Jay Gruden said. "I can't promise he's going to get a ton of opportunities with the group of guys that we have. With Jordan Reed and Chris Thompson healthy, they're still going get their opportunities. With watching Terry play, he's going to get his, and we haven't even talked about Paul. Trey Quinn is going to get some. The whole intent of this offense is to spread the ball around."

Find your role in the offense. This how other teams have to operate when you don't have a Julio Jones type talent at the #1
Exactly, "Spreading it around" means that Doctson won't get much of a chance to excel, even if he had the talent. His time to shine was last season and he just doesn't have it. 2019 is his last year as a Redskin and another WR draft choice down the drain.
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Fuck Josh Doctson
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Old 07-18-2019, 02:18 AM   #72
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Fuck Josh Doctson
You said it! I want to see some of the other WR get some playtime. One or more will have a breakout season. Playing Doctson is just a waste.
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Reed is still here because until else someone steps up, he's easily our most proven target (when healthy of course).

Same goes for CT. Both guys will probably account for 10-16 missed games this year but when on the field, they are elite.
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

I know this Old news that we have talkd about before .....but what kills me is this type of logic or lack of logic:
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...x-injury-woes/

"So after another injury plagued campaign, Redskins team president Bruce Allen brought in outside consultants who are experts in the field, and asked them to take a look at everything related to the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of injuries.
Allen said the Redskins wanted to leave the slate as blank as possible."

Anyone that looks at our draft history sprinkled with drafting injured players (we had one this year) that our FO sees as a bargain. We drafted players that dropped because of injury concerns (example Guice). We also signed Free Agent WR (example Paul Richardson Jr.) to a big contract that has a history of missing time due to injures. Then we re-sign a TE (Reed) that has a huge history of concussions and injures going all the way back to college and High School to a big contract because...reasons I have heard....we do not have a replacement....he is the best TE when healthy...we hope he can stay healthy.....We hope.
Then we wonder why we have so many injuries. it doesn't take a high priced consultant to see part of the problem.
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

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I know this Old news that we have talkd about before .....but what kills me is this type of logic or lack of logic:
https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/20...x-injury-woes/

"So after another injury plagued campaign, Redskins team president Bruce Allen brought in outside consultants who are experts in the field, and asked them to take a look at everything related to the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of injuries.
Allen said the Redskins wanted to leave the slate as blank as possible."

Anyone that looks at our draft history sprinkled with drafting injured players (we had one this year) that our FO sees as a bargain. We drafted players that dropped because of injury concerns (example Guice). We also signed Free Agent WR (example Paul Richardson Jr.) to a big contract that has a history of missing time due to injures. Then we re-sign a TE (Reed) that has a huge history of concussions and injures going all the way back to college and High School to a big contract because...reasons I have heard....we do not have a replacement....he is the best TE when healthy...we hope he can stay healthy.....We hope.
Then we wonder why we have so many injuries. it doesn't take a high priced consultant to see part of the problem.
Well, we signed Alex Smith, a veteran QB with a history of being durable, yet he has a freak accident and he's gone for the season. Schreff also didn't have a history of injuries (I think), and he went down. So our two biggest/most impactful injuries this year happened with players that didn't have a history of injuries.
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