Kirk Cousins 365 thread

[Schneed10]

Basically, I think they already know that they're planning on upping their offer eventually, they're just trying to wait the 49ers out and watch them make a move at QB.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't honestly know. I just know that they (Skins and Cousins) are far apart and the Redskins have not been slowly moving their number up. Now, of course, push is coming to shove so that may accelerate things

Yeah but do they value him as a top 5 QB? That's the Q

[metalskins]

If a trade happens, it's going to happen soon, obviously. I would think in the next couple of weeks. If it hasn't happened by the start of free agency, I think the 49ers will take a quarterback in free agency, even if he's a one year stop gap.

I'm just thinking one of two things will happen. Cousins is either traded or he signs a long term deal. I just don't think he plays 2017 under the tag.

[Brody81]

I'm starting to feel better: http://m.redskins.com/media-gallery/...1-b86b6a5053f2


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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yeah but do they value him as a top 5 QB? That's the Q

That's really not the question because the contract inflation rate for NFL QB's is astronomical. The contracts of the top QB's would somehow need to be converted into today's NFL QB contract dollars to make a comparison of their contracts with Kirk's projected contract numbers.

In addition, the Skins bucked convention by not negotiating a long-term contract with Kirk before he proved himself over more than one season. I can hardly blame Skins management for that because they must have been appalled by the big deals signed by unproven QB's turned turds like Kaepernick and Osweiler. Nevertheless, they could have had Kirk at a more reasonable price if they had signed him to a long-term deal prior to last season.

My primary point here is that the Skins have waited longer to sign Kirk to a long-term deal than others have done in the past and so, due to runaway inflation in the cost of NFL QB's, they necessarily opened themselves up to having to pay Kirk much more than they would have if they had taken the conventional approach. They had to know he would cost more this season and they must have decided that it was worth the cost of waiting to find out for certain whether or not Kirk was the right QB to lead this team into the future.

If Kirk had signed a long-term contract last season, how reasonable would that deal look right now, a year from now, two years from now?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Brody81

I'm starting to feel better: Redskins Home


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Best takeaway from that little sit-down:

We've worked with the personnel department and most recently the coaching staff to identify the guys we think will fit into our locker room and what we do, and if they make it to free agency there's no doubt their phones will be ringing.

I don't want to say gas up Redskins One but YIPPEE KAY YAY MOTHER FUCKER!

[metalskins]

LOL!! So, I was trolling the 49ers' forum and I love the attitude:

"Sounds like the Redskins have screwed this up royally with Cousins. They're going to pay a fortune tagging him 2 years in a row, only to probably lose him next year in Free Agency.

Either they trade him, or they lose him next year and only get a 3rd Rd comp pick in 2019. If their demands are bogus, no problem, just wait until next off-season to sign him.

No reason to include the 2nd overall in this. Cousins and the 49ers have more leverage than the Redskins do. We can sweeten the pot slightly so they get more than the 3rd rd comp pick they would get in 2019, but not by much. They can take it or leave it. "

It's interesting to read the different perspectives among other team's fans. The 49er fans really seem to want Kirk Cousins, and feel they're getting him whether it be this year or next year. AND, they feel they can get him for something just a bit more than a ham sandwich.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by metalskins

LOL!! So, I was trolling the 49ers' forum and I love the attitude:

"Sounds like the Redskins have screwed this up royally with Cousins. They're going to pay a fortune tagging him 2 years in a row, only to probably lose him next year in Free Agency.

Either they trade him, or they lose him next year and only get a 3rd Rd comp pick in 2019. If their demands are bogus, no problem, just wait until next off-season to sign him.

No reason to include the 2nd overall in this. Cousins and the 49ers have more leverage than the Redskins do. We can sweeten the pot slightly so they get more than the 3rd rd comp pick they would get in 2019, but not by much. They can take it or leave it. "

It's interesting to read the different perspectives among other team's fans. The 49er fans really seem to want Kirk Cousins, and feel they're getting him whether it be this year or next year. AND, they feel they can get him for something just a bit more than a ham sandwich.

Human nature. Wishful thinking trumps reality.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Human nature. Wishful thinking trumps reality.

Yeah, they pretty much feel they can offer a ham sandwich this year and if the 'skins don't take it, they'll just take Cousins next year without giving anything up (besides money of course.)

I'd say if the 'skins were truly open to trade, they should trade with the Patriots for Jimmy G and a couple 2nd round picks just to cool the jets on 49er fans. This, of course, if there was not going to be a long term contract in the works. Otherwise, if San Fran truly wants Cousins, make them pull the trigger this year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by metalskins

Yeah, they pretty much feel they can offer a ham sandwich this year and if the 'skins don't take it, they'll just take Cousins next year without giving anything up (besides money of course.)

I'd say if the 'skins were truly open to trade, they should trade with the Patriots for Jimmy G and a couple 2nd round picks just to cool the jets on 49er fans. This, of course, if there was not going to be a long term contract in the works. Otherwise, if San Fran truly wants Cousins, make them pull the trigger this year.

Please don't send KC to NE. Last thing I need year after year is Belichick and Cousins making us look foolish for not paying the man.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Please don't send KC to NE. Last thing I need year after year is Belichick and Cousins making us look foolish for not paying the man.

It wouldn't happen anyway. Honestly, I don't believe San Fran is as likely as people like to think either. Cousins would regress behind their offensive line.

[Skinsfanatic]

Let me start by saying I like Kirk and I hope like hell we keep him. However, this is a good article addressing why the team might be hesitating.

Why Kirk Cousins needs the Redskins more than the Redskins need Kirk Cousins | For The Win

[diehardskin2982]

It's all speculation because Redskins ownership is not communicating with the media. If they are forced to do a trade which one would you want them to take?

Option 1: SF

Redskins gets: #2 pick, #34 pick and Eric Reid

SF gets: #17 pick and KC

Option 2: Rams

Redskins Get: Jared Goff, 2018 2nd round pick

Rams get: KC

Option 3 Jets
Redskins get: #6, #38, Sheldon Richardson
Jets Get: KC, #17, #49

Option 4: Browns
Redskins Get #12, #33, #65 and Josh Gordon

Browns Get: KC #235

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

It's all speculation because Redskins ownership is not communicating with the media. If they are forced to do a trade which one would you want them to take?

Option 1: SF

Redskins gets: #2 pick, #34 pick and Eric Reid

SF gets: #17 pick and KC

Option 2: Rams

Redskins Get: Jared Goff, 2018 2nd round pick

Rams get: KC

Option 3 Jets
Redskins get: #6, #38, Sheldon Richardson
Jets Get: KC, #17, #49

Option 4: Browns
Redskins Get #12, #33, #65 and Josh Gordon

Browns Get: KC #235

none of the above..... there are plenty of teams that need a QB and the Redskins should be able to do better

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

none of the above..... there are plenty of teams that need a QB and the Redskins should be able to do better

That's interesting... Please tell me an offer that you think that the redskins could get.