Coaching and Front Office Changes

[Schneed10]

Kyle moves up to VP of Player Personnel and will oversee both the college personnel and pro personnel departments. So he's overseeing the work to put together the draft board and overseeing the work to scout out free agents.

Rivera still retains authority on who to actually select in the draft and on who to sign in free agency. But he'll be relying on Kyle's information.

I like the idea of moving your college scouting guy up to this level, once he's proved himself. The guys he put on his draft board three years ago are about to hit free agency in a year or so. So he can combine what he saw in the process leading up to the draft with what he's seeing in the pros.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Kyle Smith has been promoted:

https://www.redskins.com/news/redski...ayer-personnel

Pretty happy with this move. Kyle is a rising star and the team should do anything and everything to keep him.

Good move. From what I heard either from Keim or Cooley...Ron was given the last couple drafts and was told Kyle was the primary source for each pick (Haskins...seems to be the out layer). And was asked what did he think of the talent from the draft, top of players, context of other players chosen and Rivera was sold on Kyle Smith from the work he did on those last couple drafts. If true story, good to see these guys working together going forward.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Speaking of Cooley, rumor has it he's joining Rivera's staff as some sort of assistant.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Nice. This clears up who will be in charge of free agency this year. If Smith crushes free agency and the draft, i wonder if he gets the GM title, too.

I think the GM title would be empty, in name only. It wouldn't really mean anything in this case.

Rivera has decision making authority over roster construction. If he wants to delegate it to someone that's his call. But Kyle will put together the draft board and prioritize free agents. Rob Rogers will handle the negotiating. And Rivera will oversee them both - he'll take Kyle's information about free agents, Kyle will make recommendations, and Rivera will tell Rogers who to pursue.

So unless Rivera decides he wants to completely delegate that process to someone and name them General Manager to oversee all of it, I don't imagine a General Manager having much to actually do. You've got the guy handling all things scouting in Smith, you've got the guy handling negotiations in Rogers, and you've got the guy making the decisions in Rivera.

Don't know what else you need, except for a Director of College Personnel to report in to Smith, who already knows that world really well.

[Schneed10]

Edited - Comment factually incorrect.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think the GM title would be empty, in name only. It wouldn't really mean anything in this case.

Rivera has decision making authority over roster construction. If he wants to delegate it to someone that's his call. But Kyle will put together the draft board and prioritize free agents. Richard Rogers will handle the negotiating. And Rivera will oversee them both - he'll take Kyle's information about free agents, Kyle will make recommendations, and Rivera will tell Rogers who to pursue.

So unless Rivera decides he wants to completely delegate that process to someone and name them General Manager to oversee all of it, I don't imagine a General Manager having much to actually do. You've got the guy handling all things scouting in Smith, you've got the guy handling negotiations in Rogers, and you've got the guy making the decisions in Rivera.

Don't know what else you need, except for a Director of College Personnel to report in to Smith, who already knows that world really well.

A lot of reporters on the Redskins beat are thinking that they may not hire a GM at all and just keep things as they are.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

A lot of reporters on the Redskins beat are thinking that they may not hire a GM at all and just keep things as they are.

Which would make complete sense org-chart wise now that Kyle has been moved into this role.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Speaking of Cooley, rumor has it he's joining Rivera's staff as some sort of assistant.

Here is a link about this from Chuck Sapienza:

https://twitter.com/chucksapienza/st...05485556400128

[skinsfan69]

So basically Smith promoted, Doug demoted.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So basically Smith promoted, Doug demoted.

Doug technically promoted. I'd call it "pushed aside".

[gibbsrcnfan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Kyle moves up to VP of Player Personnel and will oversee both the college personnel and pro personnel departments. So he's overseeing the work to put together the draft board and overseeing the work to scout out free agents.

Rivera still retains authority on who to actually select in the draft and on who to sign in free agency. But he'll be relying on Kyle's information.

I like the idea of moving your college scouting guy up to this level, once he's proved himself. The guys he put on his draft board three years ago are about to hit free agency in a year or so. So he can combine what he saw in the process leading up to the draft with what he's seeing in the pros.

very happy to see this and thanks Schneed ..

Things are coming together very nicely for a change..

[mooby]

Wow.

I don't know that I could've asked for a better beginning to the offseason so far.
Dan consults with NFL people outside his chosen circle.
Gruden, Callahan gone, Allen fired.
Doug Williams "promoted" from player evaluations to player mentor.
Ron Rivera hired, with consultation from Gibbs and Snyder.
Kyle Smith promoted to VP of player personnel.

Really the only negative is KOC leaving, but I feel like the Scott Turner hire is only a mild downgrade to start, with the chance to improve depending on offensive performance. My glass is definitely half full now, and we haven't even gotten to FA.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

Wow.

I don't know that I could've asked for a better beginning to the offseason so far.
Dan consults with NFL people outside his chosen circle.
Gruden, Callahan gone, Allen fired.
Doug Williams "promoted" from player evaluations to player mentor.
Ron Rivera hired, with consultation from Gibbs and Snyder.
Kyle Smith promoted to VP of player personnel.

Really the only negative is KOC leaving, but I feel like the Scott Turner hire is only a mild downgrade to start, with the chance to improve depending on offensive performance. My glass is definitely half full now, and we haven't even gotten to FA.

Totally agree, with the exception of the OC position being downgraded. I'm not sure we had more in KOC, than we do currently with Turner. Time will tell, but it will probably be a little bit difficult to evaluate KOC's impact with the Rams, and whether any success is his doing or McVay's.

[SFREDSKIN]

Besides the Rivera hiring, BA firing, the Smith promotion is the best news this offseason. Would have loved to have KOC too.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Wow.



I don't know that I could've asked for a better beginning to the offseason so far.

Dan consults with NFL people outside his chosen circle.

Gruden, Callahan gone, Allen fired.

Doug Williams "promoted" from player evaluations to player mentor.

Ron Rivera hired, with consultation from Gibbs and Snyder.

Kyle Smith promoted to VP of player personnel.



Really the only negative is KOC leaving, but I feel like the Scott Turner hire is only a mild downgrade to start, with the chance to improve depending on offensive performance. My glass is definitely half full now, and we haven't even gotten to FA.

I love that everything is moving in a proper order. One step at a time, and with what would seem like due diligence and thought.

Now that Kyle Smith is over thw whole player evaluation and acquisition group, i expect they will look at what options exist for LT, and put together both a "stay here" package for TW as well as trade and replace plan in case the stay here option fails. I would think they want that settled prior to FA, and possibly the combine.

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