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Old 03-01-2020, 10:48 AM   #61
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Should we be drafting Tua???

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We don’t need to draft another injured player or one with a serious injury history. After the last two seasons did we not learn anything?

Chase Young is the choice.


Haskins improved over his rookie season. He started with a disastrous first game and then got better every game. His last two games were outstanding. He showed the POTENTIAL to be our franchise QB. We will know a lot more about him this season when:

1. OL is stabilized by resigning Scherff, Flowers and maybe Trent Williams. I’m sure they will draft for the OT. Martins progressed and will either be a very good backup or a good starter. BL - the OL will be much better than last year.

2. We will sign either Hooper or Henry in FA for top dollar ($10-11 mill/yr). I think the team will use there third round draft pick (#66) for a TE. BL - the TE position will be improved greatly over last year. This will help Haskins in the Red Zone.

3. Not sure what the team will do for WR #2. Rumors of Cooper ($20 mill/yr) which I think are smoke and mirrors. I think the team will draft for a WR, versus using FA. But they may hire a older WR for a short contract. BL - WR will be better because our rookies will be more experienced. We may get a speedster in the draft or FA to compete with Harmon.

4. Besides the filling the TE black hole, the biggest improvement for Haskins will be the OC, Scott Turner. Scott is green, but he will change the Redskins offense using passing-heavy schemes with our rejuvenated WR & TE. KOC may improve under McVay, but he operated a run-intense offense that was very predictable AND ineffective. That’s why we were the WORST offense in the NFL. We ran on first down something like 80% of the time. Scott Turner will bring this offense into the 21st century. This can only help Haskins.

So with all these improvements we will see whether Haskins has the juice to be our franchise QB or not. There can be no excuses. He either improves steadily as he did last season, or he doesn’t. I think he will get better as he gains more experience. I think he could be the long-term QB we have long waited for. But we’ll know more this season.

BTW, the Tua talk is just more smoke generated by the Redskins to see what offers they can get at their #2 pick.




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Old 03-01-2020, 11:19 AM   #62
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

I think they want to know if Detroit is seriously interested.....
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:01 PM   #63
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

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Haskins improved over his rookie season. He started with a disastrous first game and then got better every game. His last two games were outstanding. He showed the POTENTIAL to be our franchise QB. We will know a lot more about him this season when:

1. OL is stabilized by resigning Scherff, Flowers and maybe Trent Williams. I’m sure they will draft for the OT. Martins progressed and will either be a very good backup or a good starter. BL - the OL will be much better than last year.

2. We will sign either Hooper or Henry in FA for top dollar ($10-11 mill/yr). I think the team will use there third round draft pick (#66) for a TE. BL - the TE position will be improved greatly over last year. This will help Haskins in the Red Zone.

3. Not sure what the team will do for WR #2. Rumors of Cooper ($20 mill/yr) which I think are smoke and mirrors. I think the team will draft for a WR, versus using FA. But they may hire a older WR for a short contract. BL - WR will be better because our rookies will be more experienced. We may get a speedster in the draft or FA to compete with Harmon.

4. Besides the filling the TE black hole, the biggest improvement for Haskins will be the OC, Scott Turner. Scott is green, but he will change the Redskins offense using passing-heavy schemes with our rejuvenated WR & TE. KOC may improve under McVay, but he operated a run-intense offense that was very predictable AND ineffective. That’s why we were the WORST offense in the NFL. We ran on first down something like 80% of the time. Scott Turner will bring this offense into the 21st century. This can only help Haskins.

So with all these improvements we will see whether Haskins has the juice to be our franchise QB or not. There can be no excuses. He either improves steadily as he did last season, or he doesn’t. I think he will get better as he gains more experience. I think he could be the long-term QB we have long waited for. But we’ll know more this season.

BTW, the Tua talk is just more smoke generated by the Redskins to see what offers they can get at their #2 pick.




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I agree that OC Scott Turner will help in the long term. I was so tired of Gruden's no adjustments coaching staff. Terrible at developing talent.
Getting back to a more traditional offense, getting a FB lead blocker, play action deception and getting away from Grudens offense will go a long way.
Gruden never saw the benefit of having a run blocking FB or TE. It was all about passing, Jordan Reed and having no FB's on the roster is proof. We need run blocking TE and FB.
Glad change is here.
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:16 PM   #64
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

Haskins will be a good QB, lets not overreact here to Tua Mania. The issue is we need so much more than a QB, we don't even know who will be starting on the line lol, you want to bring in a guy that may sit out 2020 with the #2 pick? No way man, he's got great potential but let Miami take that chance... We need Chase Young
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:41 PM   #65
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Haskins will be a good QB, lets not overreact here to Tua Mania. The issue is we need so much more than a QB, we don't even know who will be starting on the line lol, you want to bring in a guy that may sit out 2020 with the #2 pick? No way man, he's got great potential but let Miami take that chance... We need Chase Young
I would not draft him - He cant stay healthy...... That being said if Burrows drops (chances of this are slim to none) draft him - trade Haskins (not a knock on Haskins). Bengals take Burrows, we take Young - plain and simple....unless offered a a kings ransom in picks....Also dump Williams for what ever you can get for him. He does not want to be a redskins....
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:45 PM   #66
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

I wish I could hibernate until April 23rd.

We're drafting Chase Young. Let's all accept it and move on.
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Old 03-01-2020, 01:01 PM   #67
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I wish I could hibernate until April 23rd.

We're drafting Chase Young. Let's all accept it and move on.
The off season sucks. I get sucked in for a day and then realize I just can't do it. The combine and all these pro days, Tua vs Haskins... just a bunch of nonsense.
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Old 03-01-2020, 02:14 PM   #68
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

If we drafted Tua, he wouldn’t be competing with anyone.


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Old 03-01-2020, 03:25 PM   #69
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

“Rivera told Tagovailoa he wants to bring him to Washington to compete with second-year quarterback Dwayne Haskins during their meeting at the NFL combine, a source told the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

“They felt like Dwayne was not the guy right now,” the source said.

This is a surprise if the source is legit
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:27 PM   #70
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

If we truly want Chase, then the best thing would be to see if the lions want to trade up a spot to get Tua. Get their #3 and at least a 2nd round pick. That way we could still get Chase. I guess they would have to some how know that they weren't taking Chase. I know some will say that they wouldn't want Tua they have Stafford. Some of the experts are saying that he needs to sit for the first year. That would be perfect for the lions.
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:57 PM   #71
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

Only thing I know fa sho is that draft day can't get here soon enough.

We're either gonna find out if Riverboat Ron is playing the rest of the NFL like a fiddle or if he actually is ready to move on from Haskins.
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:41 PM   #72
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

Per JP tweet:

Source tells me Ron Rivera wasnt in Redskins team meeting with Tua Tagovailoa last week in Indy. Rivera was in NFL league meetings during the team's sit-down with Tua.

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Old 03-02-2020, 01:05 PM   #73
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Source tells me Ron Rivera wasnt in Redskins team meeting with Tua Tagovailoa last week in Indy. Rivera was in NFL league meetings during the team's sit-down with Tua.

1:09 PM - Mar 1, 2020
Its not really relevant whether he was there or not. I think it was Keim, or it could have been one of the other beat reporters, who tweeted that Rivera is on a number of committees and crazy busy at the combine. So busy in fact, that he missed his own press conference and had to reschedule. Rivera will be at Tua's pro day and talk with Tua again when he comes to the team for a workout/interview. The interest in Tua is real, even if its not the direction they go.
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Re: Should we be drafting Tua???

I don't get all the hype for him.

He is only 6'1 and he is hurt all the time. And he's a damn lefty (sorry mom).

Dwayne Haskins is going to be a much better pro QB.
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I don't get all the hype for him.

He is only 6'1 and he is hurt all the time. And he's a damn lefty (sorry mom).

Dwayne Haskins is going to be a much better pro QB.
From a college standpoint he's much a more better prospect than DH
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