07-30-2021, 08:11 AM | #151 |
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I agree they are unique but disagree that the sample size is significant relative to all highly trained individuals. In addition, the biggest single question mark is that of time, especially how being given even the low dose of covid required in the vaccine affects an athlete when exerting extreme physical activity. These 2500+ you speak of have not gone through GameDay type exertion, will the vaccinated carry and release covid at a greater rate than the general public, players can't possibly know that because the circumstance has never existed.
I don't belong to the group that doubts big pharma so I am not sure why you mention that, seems like you may be making assumptions without facts. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk |
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I was not attempting to generalize about your specific position with regards big pharma, more an observation from an external perspective there appears to be a greater distrust in the US than elsewhere, apologies if I did not make that clear |
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07-30-2021, 09:41 AM | #153 | |
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I see you often speak in absolutes. I'm not saying you're ignorant, but speaking in absolutes is an ignorant approach. I hope you are aware that the vaccinated has just as high, if not higher risk, to contract the delta variant. I hope you're also aware that the unvaccinated may OR may not contract the variant. Keep believing everything being told to you by mainstream media. |
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07-30-2021, 09:45 AM | #154 | |
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https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/5-...-variant-covid Vaccinated people ARE more vulnerable than previous strains, but there is ample evidence that has come out from numerous sources in the past few days that while protection is lower, you're still much less likely to get it.
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07-30-2021, 09:47 AM | #155 |
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Getting the virus and getting seriously ill are two different ball games. Best of luck to those choosing not to take the shot. Talk to your doctor if you have doubts or questions.
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07-30-2021, 09:59 AM | #156 | |
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And the vaccinated are absolutely more protected against the delta…there is no argument against that. Simply look at infection rates and who is in the hospital and deaths with covid confirmed with delta. Overwhelming the unvaccinated. I also strongly believe I shouldn’t be made to wear a mask if vaccinated. The data for that hasn’t been provided…and the vaccine works. Bro…understand I want you to be safe and I’m not going to ridicule you if you’re not vaccinated, that’s your choice. But the delta is extremely contagious…it’s very likely unvaccinated will get it.
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07-30-2021, 10:27 AM | #157 | |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mask-guidance/ There's other reports of what I've stated. There's also counties in the Bay area of California, which has a highest numbers of vaccination, but also some of the highest new case rates. I'm having trouble with the link, but I'll post it when I get a chance. |
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07-30-2021, 10:40 AM | #158 |
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One important fact that we do not hear enough about anywhere is that those of us who have previously had COVID now have natural immunity, as a result. The science tells us that this group does not need the vaccine. Vaccines are/were meant to replicate the effect of the actual infection as to creating antibodies and immunity.
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Another great example of terrible messaging by the administration pushed by “so called credibile” news org. Does everyone see how this works? And why we have this predicament? JFC. This feeds the doubts about the vaccine
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Ioan Man and Jackson may not have any symptoms or little at all, but carriers. Remind you, there are people who has had it prior to vaccination and has been reinfected months later (after vaccination). |
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07-30-2021, 11:12 AM | #164 |
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My sister got COVID and she still had to get the vaccine. She had to wait two months after getting COVID, but they told her that she needed it regardless. I'm thankful she was able to pull through, but had a miserable time while she had it.
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In regards to the thread topic. Lamar Jackson second positive exposure. He was battling side effects for a few months well after contracting it first time. With WFT I hope players do take precautions around Ron. He might be the best thing to happen to the franchise in a long time in terms of lasting impacts on culture and success. I'd hate for him to feel the juice isn't worth the squeeze and resign. NFL policy have a zero problems with it (not a fan of the public sector policies). Players have a union they pay reps and if a contract is agreed upon that is your choice to agree to the contract or not play. Anecdotally that happened to my sister in law. She works for a Methodist church they said to keep your job you have to be vaccinated. Told her find a new job but that is where her heart is so she got it. |
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