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Old 12-12-2022, 10:50 AM   #31
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Definitely agree. I'd be good with a T and G in rounds 1 and 2 for sure depending how the board falls.

Could get a good G with the 3rd round compensatory, too.

A dependable T would go a very long way. We could kick Cosmi inside permanently, who could hone the craft and become a very good Guard. Then get another strong young G and that relegates the Norwell / Turner experiment to a depth play.

I'd like to be in the position where we're cutting a guy who the staff would see as 'serviceable' due to numbers.
Definitely won't be complaining about any OL draft pick, even if it's in several/multiple rounds.

Just give me a CB and a LB sprinkled in somewhere.
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Old 12-12-2022, 12:03 PM   #32
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So our picks should be the following, with the exact order approximated because the season isn't over yet. 20th pick would be assuming we'd exit in the first round of the playoffs.

Round 1 - #20
Round 2 - #51
Round 3 - #97 (from Scherff)
Round 4 - #121
Round 5 - #155
Round 6 - #196
Round 6 - #214 (from Settle)
Round 7 - #237
Yep, that was my thinking 2 OL (T and G) draft according to board. If there is a stud CB or LB rated higher than an OL, get him as long as we get to Olinemen between 1-4.
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OT and 2x OG/C; FA or draft, just please address it.
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OT and 2x OG/C; FA or draft, just please address it.
I hope we add 4+ offensive lineman (or re-sign Wes as one of those spots) going into next training camp. 2 tackles, a G, and a C preferably.

Including drafting at least 1 of those 2 tackles.

I'll be happy with any combination of signings and draft picks for the spots.

Leno, Wes, Chase, Cosmi, Draft Pick/FA would be pretty solid. But also hard to depend on Cosmi or Chase to stay healthy, so definitely need viable backups at those 2 positions.
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I hope we add 4+ offensive lineman (or re-sign Wes as one of those spots) going into next training camp. 2 tackles, a G, and a C preferably.

Including drafting at least 1 of those 2 tackles.

I'll be happy with any combination of signings and draft picks for the spots.

Leno, Wes, Chase, Cosmi, Draft Pick/FA would be pretty solid. But also hard to depend on Cosmi or Chase to stay healthy, so definitely need viable backups at those 2 positions.
Donít forget Chris Paul, he looks promising
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Donít forget Chris Paul, he looks promising
I do like Paul as a backup option next year. I'm assuming Turner and Norwell won't be back next year, so there could definitely still be a spot for him, especially if he's cross-training at C too. We need better competition and depth at o-line, so I think we need to bring in quite a few guys. It's better to have a tough decision on who to cut than have to keep a guy(s) who you're not really confident in.
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Agree with the sentiment on CB too. We'll need a long term replacement for Fuller, he's getting older and next year is his last season with us under his current contract.
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I do like Paul as a backup option next year. I'm assuming Turner and Norwell won't be back next year, so there could definitely still be a spot for him, especially if he's cross-training at C too. We need better competition and depth at o-line, so I think we need to bring in quite a few guys. It's better to have a tough decision on who to cut than have to keep a guy(s) who you're not really confident in.
Norwell is under contract for another year w a 5.1M cap hit in 2023.

Interesting bonus structure w 3 void years added after 2023. I dont really understand it.

Cut pre June = 2.8M dead cap
Post June = only 700k

https://overthecap.com/player/andrew-norwell/3282

Norwell is serviceable imo, if hes our weakest OL starter next year, Im fine with it.

This FO and OL coach Matsko have done a decent job in identifying good value FA additions in FA and I imagine we could plug 2 starter OL guys from FA if needed.
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Norwell is under contract for another year w a 5.1M cap hit in 2023.

Interesting bonus structure w 3 void years added after 2023. I dont really understand it.

Cut pre June = 2.8M dead cap
Post June = only 700k

https://overthecap.com/player/andrew-norwell/3282

Norwell is serviceable imo, if hes our weakest OL starter next year, Im fine with it.

This FO and OL coach Matsko have done a decent job in identifying good value FA additions in FA and I imagine we could plug 2 starter OL guys from FA if needed.
Yeah, and I think he is at the position deemed least important on the line, but I would like a challenge they by a younger player.

The center position is a bit of a cluster as Roullier when healthy is good, but we are two years now in a row with a significant injury missing time.

To me, getting get a young interior Olineman who can play both G/Center with starter potential in the draft is a priority.
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Norwell is under contract for another year w a 5.1M cap hit in 2023.

Interesting bonus structure w 3 void years added after 2023. I dont really understand it.

Cut pre June = 2.8M dead cap
Post June = only 700k

https://overthecap.com/player/andrew-norwell/3282

Norwell is serviceable imo, if hes our weakest OL starter next year, Im fine with it.

This FO and OL coach Matsko have done a decent job in identifying good value FA additions in FA and I imagine we could plug 2 starter OL guys from FA if needed.
SS, I was on over the cap last weekend, what I found interesting is go to Free Agent tracker, sort by RG. What pops up? Red flag saying, hey we could do a lot better with our money
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I guess Ill put this here.

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