Dunbar demanding trade or release

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Entering last yr of contract + little guaranteed $ = probable holdout

Couple of thoughts

- 18: numbers of games played out of the possible 32 last 2 years. Is he a guy that will play through pain? Will he play at 80% or does he personally require him being 95% and above?

- 28 years old when 2020 starts, that not old.

- 56.9% completion rate against this season. That is excellent.

- 52: times targeted last season, thats low, 77th rank among CBs, could this mean J No just left to many guys open so a QB didnt have to look his way? That his sample size is too small to forecast future success comfortably? or is it just bc he only played 11 games.

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What I dont understand is the timing. Why now? RR just meet his staff for the first time on Monday Feb 10. He and his agent had to know that the new regime would need some time to get caught up and then address contract concerns.

Initially I thought this issue of not having him resigned already was another Bruce failure to do basic communication with players. But then he says they did talk previously but he hasnt talked to the new regime yet.

Perhaps he and his agent wanted to get his name circulating out there as early as possible so teams may consider acquiring him as they also come up with a FA plan.

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My bottom line -

(1) I like Dunbar, I dont see him as the No. 2 overall best corner in the NFL like PPF does but I do acknowledge that they know more than I do with my fan eye ball test.

If he wants a 5/65M/40G ... I think I would maybe might do that but that would really be stretching me. Much more comfortable at like a 4/40/30 deal. Which who knows, maybe he would have taken last year
(2) I dont blame a player for contract efforts if they are going into their final year.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-ran...hrough-week-17

I agree and I don't think the market would give him that 5/65 million simply based on his recent injury history. But Dunbar on 3.25 million this year...he is an extension-earned type player on this team. I would make him an offer.

[SunnySide]

OTL - i do think we as a group over emphasis what Penn and Flowers did last year. They were servicable at best imo and greatest ability was to stay healthy and up right.

I want an upgraded LT and LG.

[Defensewins]

I agree.
This little part of the Washington Post article sums it up in the business side of things. Where this conversation needs to be. Not on the emotional fan side:
"The 27-year-old Dunbar, who joined the Redskins as an undrafted free agent in 2015, had a breakout effort in 2019. He emerged as the team’s top cornerback and was ranked the No. 2 cornerback in the NFL by analytics website Pro Football Focus. Dunbar posted a career-high four interceptions in 11 games, but he suffered a hamstring injury and finished the season on injured reserve for the second consecutive year.
If Dunbar suffered another serious injury before he landed a new deal, it would have a significant impact on his bargaining power with either the Redskins or another team. The 20 highest-paid cornerbacks in the NFL average at least $10 million per year, with the Miami Dolphins’ Xavien Howard leading the league with an average of $15.05 million. Redskins cornerback Josh Norman is No. 2 at $15 million."
Dunbar is just laying the ground work on negotiations and why he will not be at OTA's. I think we all remember our MLB suffering a severe knee injury on first day of OTA's last year. I do not blame him for his business stance.

[MTK]

I don’t blame him either, but I also don’t blame the team if they’re reluctant to give him big money based on his injury history. Should be interesting to see how this goes with Rivera.


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[BigHairedAristocrat]

I really do think we will have forgotten about this by the time the season starts. Its a slow part of the year, so we all spend more time discussing and debating things which are ultimately barely news-worthy.

[Warthog]

Dunbar has seen so many of his fellow players, ON THIS TEAM, get hurt. If you don’t have guaranteed money in your contract, and you get hurt, you get NOTHING. Dunbar is getting $3.5 million and CB’s at his level (elite) get $10 mill. So he’s trying to protect himself. I get it.

Dunbar’s a player we REALLY want to keep. He was a nobody UDFA who changed positions and is now the second-best CB in the NFL. The Redskins got him super-cheap and now he’s going to be paid. Let’s get him signed up and move on.

With our upcoming fierce pass rush (with Chase) our DB’s are going to have a field day. With the release of all the players who were OVERPAID and did not play or grossly underperform (Norman, Richardson, Davis, Reed, McCoy, etc) we will have cap money to keep our best players and build a winning culture. Sign up Dunbar and pay him what he has earned.

I think it’s a good chance we will bring back Kendall Fuller. Bring him back at CB to see if he can recover his mojo that he had with us. Just a cheap, one-year contract. What’s not to like?




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[Chico23231]

So we have estimated a value of a contract per year of 10 mil per in a 3-4 year range.

His value on the field, best CB and best coverage guy in the secondary. Among peers, PFF has him as one of the top coverage guys...SS mentioned he doesn't get thrown at a ton, meaning he is doing his job.

So lets now look at his Trade Value...I think you throw 1st or 2nd round as laughable. I don't think we could get a 3rd round either based on injury history.

So you would take a 4th rounder? dumb move

[CRedskinsRule]

We were 3-13 last season. Our pass defense was horrid on 3rd downs. If he wants to stay and play for real defensive coaches fine, but if it not, I will put faith in our newly minted VP of player personnel and RR to find suitable replacements.

[MTK]

Foster had his knee torn to shreds, not sure he's the best example to use

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by MTK

Foster had his knee torn to shreds, not sure he's the best example to use

Yeah neither am I sure its the best example. But 3 snaps into the very first OTAs? .. that raises a red flag to me. Just doing fan, shoot from the hip speculation, perhaps he tore it over the summer then shredded it in OTAs.

It is what it is. Whether it was non-football activities or not, we would still keep him. But i do always watch for those guys who drop on the first day. And after reading this article, will watch for those veterans brought in late who then "pull a calf" right before he might be cut.

[Chico23231]

Move Dunbar to Tampa for TE OJ Howard

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Move Dunbar to Tampa for TE OJ Howard

He just came out and said he is not looking for a trade but I'd take that deal

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Move Dunbar to Tampa for TE OJ Howard

send'em down to Jax with Gruden they need a new CB.

[Skinzorz]

I see Dunbar has supposedly changed his tune about wanting a release/trade. He’s going to talk with the boss man. Hopefully they work out a raise that’s good for him and the team.

[Skinzorz]

Someone probably whispered in our mans ear, and told him that this organization gave him the opportunity to be what he is now. That he should probably be patient and give the organization the opportunity to do the right thing. Instead of saying, “hey bro, get me the hell out of here, I don’t know you.” You might want to reach out in a more respectful manner first. Then if you don’t get the attention you want, start throwing a little something out there and citing that you had been ignored.....this is the reason why I’m acting like this.