The Haskins Threat 2.0

[kct1975]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

“No, talking to Tua is you talk to Tua, which I’ve had an opportunity to do,” Rivera said. “Everything is an option. We’re not closing the door on anything. One of the things Kyle and I talked about is you have to go through this process. You don’t know. You don’t know what’s going to happen in front of you. You don’t know what’s going to happen with you, so we’re going to go through and. Tua is one of the guys we’re bringing in. Just so everybody knows. We’re bringing in (Joe) Burrow, we’re bringing in Tua, and we’ll see both of their workouts. That’s just the way it is. You just don’t know, so we’re going to prepare, we’re going to get ourselves ready, we’re going to, obviously, look at some of the other players. We’re going to look at Chase; we’re going to look at the corners, we’re going to look at everybody.”

I like what I am hearing!

Maybe the Redskins have finally found some Adults to run the show instead of that juvenile Bruce Allen.

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[sandtrapjack]

Riveras statement, alongside talking with Tua and Burrow are brilliant moves by Ron Rivera. By doing that, he makes the teams below him in the draft (Det, Mia etc) to start thinking they need to move up to the 2 spot for Tua. If Detroit bites, they will trade additonal draft picks to move up to #2. They get Tua, Washington STILL gets their guy Chase Young and gets some valuable draft picks in the process. If no one bites, Skins still get Young. Rivera playing with house money. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Well played.

[mredskins]

i wouldn't cry if they drafted Tua

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Riveras statement, alongside talking with Tua and Burrow are brilliant moves by Ron Rivera. By doing that, he makes the teams below him in the draft (Det, Mia etc) to start thinking they need to move up to the 2 spot for Tua. If Detroit bites, they will trade additonal draft picks to move up to #2. They get Tua, Washington STILL gets their guy Chase Young and gets some valuable draft picks in the process. If no one bites, Skins still get Young. Rivera playing with house money. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Well played.

Yep I wouldn't be surprised if you even start seeing rumors of "The redskins are serious contenders for Tua" I just don't see Detroit letting Stafford go yet

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

i wouldn't cry if they drafted Tua

I wouldn't either but I'd hope we can get a 2nd for Haskins then, and that is probably not happening

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yep I wouldn't be surprised if you even start seeing rumors of "The redskins are serious contenders for Tua" I just don't see Detroit letting Stafford go yet

I think Bruce had a rumor mill department designed to shade thoughts and decisions. I would be disappointed to see any rumors swirl around our team. And it doesn't seem like a RR thing to do.

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[mredskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think Bruce had a rumor mill department designed to shade thoughts and decisions. I would be disappointed to see any rumors swirl around our team. And it doesn't seem like a RR thing to do.

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I think this is different then the Bruce rumor mill where he smeared redskin employees he didn't like; AKA: Scot M.

This type of rumoring with the draft is more part of the game and makes sense; he wants to see if he can get added value at 2.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I wouldn't either but I'd hope we can get a 2nd for Haskins then, and that is probably not happening

They both be on rookie contracts I say let them battle it out a couple seasons; best man gets the job second best yields us a draft pick.

Its the most important position on the field the hardest to fill. IF Tua and Chase Young both became ALL PRO; Tau would bring the bigger impact to us.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Haskins, our #2, plus some players (like Kerrigan or Trent) or picks to the Bengals for the #1 pick to draft Burrow. Bengals draft Chase Young.

And if your objection to this idea is that the Bengals wouldn't want Haskins, then you need to ask yourself - why should we?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Haskins, our #2, plus some players (like Kerrigan or Trent) or picks to the Bengals for the #1 pick to draft Burrow. Bengals draft Chase Young.

And if your objection to this idea is that the Bengals wouldn't want Haskins, then you need to ask yourself - why should we?

I would like Burrow but I'm not sure he's hands down that much better than Tua right now

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Haskins, our #2, plus some players (like Kerrigan or Trent) or picks to the Bengals for the #1 pick to draft Burrow. Bengals draft Chase Young.

And if your objection to this idea is that the Bengals wouldn't want Haskins, then you need to ask yourself - why should we?

If we are getting rid of Haskins, any team would be skeptical (see Rosen last offseason).

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I would like Burrow but I'm not sure he's hands down that much better than Tua right now

There is just more of a health concern with Tua. Even before the hip thing, he's always getting hurt. Both appear to be clear upgrades over Haskins. I would be fine taking Tua at 2 and either trading Haskins or going into 2020 and letting them compete. See who shines and there's your starter. If they both shine, then trade one of them in 2021 or 2022.

I'd also be fine taking Young or trading down if the offer is obscene.

We are in a very very good spot in my opinion.

- Trading up for Burrow - Great Decision
- Stay and Select Young - Great Decision
- Stay and select Tua - Great Decision
- Trade down to 3-6, accumulate picks and still get an elite talent - Great Decision

If Bruce were in charge, I would be worried he'd find a way to screw up any of these scenarios. But he's not. I completely trust the people we have in charge.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Haskins, our #2, plus some players (like Kerrigan or Trent) or picks to the Bengals for the #1 pick to draft Burrow. Bengals draft Chase Young.



And if your objection to this idea is that the Bengals wouldn't want Haskins, then you need to ask yourself - why should we?

No way we should give up haskins AND our #2 plus other stuff.

Keep #2, trade Haskins Kerrigan or TW and maybe a 4th or later pick.

But realistically no team is doing either side of that type of trade.

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[mredskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

There is just more of a health concern with Tua. Even before the hip thing, he's always getting hurt. Both appear to be clear upgrades over Haskins. I would be fine taking Tua at 2 and either trading Haskins or going into 2020 and letting them compete. See who shines and there's your starter. If they both shine, then trade one of them in 2021 or 2022.

I'd also be fine taking Young or trading down if the offer is obscene.

We are in a very very good spot in my opinion.

- Trading up for Burrow - Great Decision
- Stay and Select Young - Great Decision
- Stay and select Tua - Great Decision
- Trade down to 3-6, accumulate picks and still get an elite talent - Great Decision

If Bruce were in charge, I would be worried he'd find a way to screw up any of these scenarios. But he's not. I completely trust the people we have in charge.

I agree.

Thank god we lost that OT game in Dec to the giants, that lost could be franchise changing.

[Warthog]

We’re not taking Tua or Burrows in any crazy trade. When you draft a QB in the first round, you build around him and give him 20-35 games to succeed or fail. They will ride Haskins for better or worse until given a far chance to become a franchise QB.

We’re drafting Chase Young unless offered something crazy.

In Dwayne Haskins last two games he had a QB rating of 120 and 141. His fifth and sixth NFL games. Exactly what do you want with this guy, beyond that?


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