Redskins vs Rams pre game thread

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Go look at the Rams' Defense box score vs the Seasquawks from last week. Arron Donald, welcome to stardom...guy was out of his mind last week.

Donald is not that big, but is fast. Who on the OL will be his matchup? We still need to contain Long and Quinn+ Brockers. Ouch!!

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2015, 10:12 AM

Probably another low scoring game. Rams 20 Skins 13.

Chico23231 · 09-16-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Donald is not that big, but is fast. Who on the OL will be his matchup? We still need to contain Long and Quinn+ Brockers. Ouch!!

We def have alot to worry about, but we were able to limit Suh and Wake who are just as good. Im excited by the test, we are facing probably 2 top 5 Dlines in the first two weeks of the season.

I think Schreff and Kory L will take turns with Donald.

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

We def have alot to worry about, but we were able to limit Suh and Wake who are just as good. Im excited by the test, we are facing probably 2 top 5 Dlines in the first two weeks of the season.

I think Schreff and Kory L will take turns with Donald.

OL needs to bring their A game for this game in order for us to win. I have faith in Callahan to have them ready.

Chico23231 · 09-16-2015, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

OL needs to bring their A game for this game in order for us to win. I have faith in Callahan to have them ready.

Darrel Young did a really good job last week...he gets lost in the shuffle. I know we have our TE issues with the run blocking, but DY more than made up for it. Look for him to hit guys in the hole and get out on LB.

I think DY earned some touches last week...he is another guy we could get involved running and especially passing out the back field.

Id like to see Jay open it up to more guys this week i.e: DY, a second TE, and Crowder

skinsfaninok · 09-16-2015, 10:54 AM

Skins are 24-13 all time vs rams. I know that doesn't mean much but still.

RedskinJake · 09-16-2015, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

OL needs to bring their A game for this game in order for us to win. I have faith in Callahan to have them ready.

Yeah, having Callahan there looks like it's going to propel the OL into respectability quick. I think people forget just how much a good position coach can help a team.

I think success last week will give them some confidence and if they can hold their own against the Rams DL could really have them playing well this year which will help settle the entire offense this year.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-16-2015, 11:10 AM

I'm actually worried about Trent Williams this game. There are always 1-2 "speed" rushers that he seems to have a problem with. Quinn is one of those guys. He can absolutely handle anyone that's a bull-rush guy or in between, but when he has trouble, it's against speed guys.

Chico23231 · 09-16-2015, 11:33 AM

Redskins SS Jeron Johnson "has fallen out of favor" with the coaching staff.

Johnson was signed as a free agent away from the Seahawks in March and was expected to be the starting strong safety. Duke Ihenacho later beat him out for the job, and after Ihenacho's season-ending broken wrist in Week 1, Johnson still isn't expected to see the field

per the washington post

trenton robinson I think has played well

calia · 09-16-2015, 12:25 PM

Honestly, this game makes me nervous more than most on our schedule. STL has a nasty D, and they always seem to play us well (and we often piss ourselves against them). And the Rams special teams are among the best in the league.

This game will say a lot about our respective teams -- is STL for real, or do they just match up well against the Seahawks? Has their offense become legit with Foles and their speed receivers? Is our O line capable of consistent good performances against strong defenses? Can Kirk get into a rhythm, and can we find anyone capable of establishing a deep threat with DJax out? Can our secondary play 60 minutes? (Heck, can they play 45?) And can our coaching staff dial up some imaginative plays against a strong defense?

And will there be more blue & gold than burgundy & gold at FedEx? (The amount of teal last week was disturbing.)

I think this will end up more high scoring than last week, but I am not optimistic we will win. Rams 27, Skins 21.

30gut · 09-16-2015, 01:19 PM

Run game: The gameplan can carry over for the most part. The game plan for Suh can be applied to Donald.

Overall run game thoughts:
(1) Commitment to the run. Its gonna be needed because the Rams are actually betteragainst the run then Miami.

(2) Running creatively. If base run game fails/struggles (don't count on our TEs to block the POA) there need to be contingency running plans. I think running from spread i.e. forcing the defense to take a LB or DT off the field through personnel groupings and alignment

Passing game: The Rams secondary is average. There is no Brent Grimes or Rashard Jones. The quality of their pass defense is a function on their pass rush. Looking at the numbers and personnel Miami's pass defense is better then the Rams.

Moreso then the Fins this game I can see the passing game being more of a factor and putting a little (not the whole game but a little) more on Kirk's shoulders to attack their secondary.

Like Bill Parcel's used to say 'think players not plays'. And the forgotten man in our passing game has been Garcon. I want to see Pierre involved in the gameplan early so he and Kirk can start to feel good and get a rhythm. Something easy like a screen and a hitch. But Garcon needs help through scheme to get open. Its something Kyle did very will, stack formations, bunch formations etc. There need to be 'Garcon' specific plays early and often.

Keep using Reed, especially use him to help identify coverage. Move him around, split him out wide. Involve Carrier in similar fashion.

I think the next man up is not Ross or Roberts but Grant. To complement Garcon it helps having someone out there that can run the route tree AND can seperate on their own without the aid of scheme.

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2015, 03:19 PM

I hope they don't get away from the running game:

What to watch for: Redskins turn to short passing game instead of runs | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Redskins SS Jeron Johnson "has fallen out of favor" with the coaching staff.

Johnson was signed as a free agent away from the Seahawks in March and was expected to be the starting strong safety. Duke Ihenacho later beat him out for the job, and after Ihenacho's season-ending broken wrist in Week 1, Johnson still isn't expected to see the field

per the washington post

trenton robinson I think has played well

What happened to this guy? He was suppose to compete for the job. Now he can't beat out Trenton Robinson? WTF?

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What happened to this guy? He was suppose to compete for the job. Now he can't beat out Trenton Robinson? WTF?

Seattle attitude, like Chancellor.

That Guy · 09-16-2015, 04:52 PM

maybe trent robinson is actually good?

we didn't pay johnson enough to be too worried about it, and i haven't seen enough of either to really know one way or the other. the defense played well last week though with robinson in (amerson was the weakest link, followed by maybe k robinson in coverage), so i'm going to trust the decision was based on play and not contract or reputation.

09-16-2015, 10:12 AM	#17
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,130	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread Probably another low scoring game. Rams 20 Skins 13.

09-16-2015, 10:54 AM	#21
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,991	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread Skins are 24-13 all time vs rams. I know that doesn't mean much but still. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

09-16-2015, 11:10 AM	#23
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread I'm actually worried about Trent Williams this game. There are always 1-2 "speed" rushers that he seems to have a problem with. Quinn is one of those guys. He can absolutely handle anyone that's a bull-rush guy or in between, but when he has trouble, it's against speed guys. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

09-16-2015, 11:33 AM	#24
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 33,914	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread Redskins SS Jeron Johnson "has fallen out of favor" with the coaching staff. Johnson was signed as a free agent away from the Seahawks in March and was expected to be the starting strong safety. Duke Ihenacho later beat him out for the job, and after Ihenacho's season-ending broken wrist in Week 1, Johnson still isn't expected to see the field per the washington post trenton robinson I think has played well __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

09-16-2015, 12:25 PM	#25
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 55 Posts: 3,355	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread Honestly, this game makes me nervous more than most on our schedule. STL has a nasty D, and they always seem to play us well (and we often piss ourselves against them). And the Rams special teams are among the best in the league. This game will say a lot about our respective teams -- is STL for real, or do they just match up well against the Seahawks? Has their offense become legit with Foles and their speed receivers? Is our O line capable of consistent good performances against strong defenses? Can Kirk get into a rhythm, and can we find anyone capable of establishing a deep threat with DJax out? Can our secondary play 60 minutes? (Heck, can they play 45?) And can our coaching staff dial up some imaginative plays against a strong defense? And will there be more blue & gold than burgundy & gold at FedEx? (The amount of teal last week was disturbing.) I think this will end up more high scoring than last week, but I am not optimistic we will win. Rams 27, Skins 21. __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

09-16-2015, 01:19 PM	#26
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread Run game: The gameplan can carry over for the most part. The game plan for Suh can be applied to Donald. Overall run game thoughts: (1) Commitment to the run. Its gonna be needed because the Rams are actually betteragainst the run then Miami. (2) Running creatively. If base run game fails/struggles (don't count on our TEs to block the POA) there need to be contingency running plans. I think running from spread i.e. forcing the defense to take a LB or DT off the field through personnel groupings and alignment Passing game: The Rams secondary is average. There is no Brent Grimes or Rashard Jones. The quality of their pass defense is a function on their pass rush. Looking at the numbers and personnel Miami's pass defense is better then the Rams. Moreso then the Fins this game I can see the passing game being more of a factor and putting a little (not the whole game but a little) more on Kirk's shoulders to attack their secondary. Like Bill Parcel's used to say 'think players not plays'. And the forgotten man in our passing game has been Garcon. I want to see Pierre involved in the gameplan early so he and Kirk can start to feel good and get a rhythm. Something easy like a screen and a hitch. But Garcon needs help through scheme to get open. Its something Kyle did very will, stack formations, bunch formations etc. There need to be 'Garcon' specific plays early and often. Keep using Reed, especially use him to help identify coverage. Move him around, split him out wide. Involve Carrier in similar fashion. I think the next man up is not Ross or Roberts but Grant. To complement Garcon it helps having someone out there that can run the route tree AND can seperate on their own without the aid of scheme.

09-16-2015, 03:19 PM	#27
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread I hope they don't get away from the running game: What to watch for: Redskins turn to short passing game instead of runs \| Rich Tandler's Real Redskins __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-16-2015, 04:52 PM	#30
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 41 Posts: 17,487	Re: Redskins vs Rams pre game thread maybe trent robinson is actually good? we didn't pay johnson enough to be too worried about it, and i haven't seen enough of either to really know one way or the other. the defense played well last week though with robinson in (amerson was the weakest link, followed by maybe k robinson in coverage), so i'm going to trust the decision was based on play and not contract or reputation.

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