Skins getting heat again over name issue

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't want to have the same team name as another major sports team. If anything, find a Native American tribe that would like for or support the team using it, and use that name.

How about Cherokees? About a thousand or so live a couple hundred miles down the road from DC.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

How about Cherokees? About a thousand or so live a couple hundred miles down the road from DC.

Works for me. I am 100% fine with any tribe name. And it would be even more cool if they have history in the surrounding area.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't want to have the same team name as another major sports team. If anything, find a Native American tribe that would like for or support the team using it, and use that name.

Rather go with warriors than Sioux or Navajo's....

[Giantone]

I've said this before, No I don't think the name is Offensive but in today's Political climate it's a hot topic . I personally would like to see Dan Stand by his word and not change it but as far as money goes he could make some big money on the sales of a new logo and moniker plus it would open up the chance that all Redskin fans have wanted and that is to build a New stadium on the RFK site and bring the team back to DC. So I think it will happen and I will take a guess that it will be the "Red Tales or the Senators" .IMO.

[sandtrapjack]

Bunk. Just before camps open is the slowest news time of the year in football. Writers will write about anything. Florio using current climate as a catalyst.

Look gents, every May and June like clockwork, Florio of some other writer does an article on how the teams name is detrimental to the brand and should be changed. It happened lasts summer, it happened the summer before that. And I will bet you that this time next year it happens again.

But once July gets here, the articles stop and there are better things to discuss in football than this.

[Buffalo Bob]

If you go back 100 years when blatant racism against any minority was all over the place in print media and in Hollywood, the term redskin was rarely used to refer to Native Americans. I have never heard another human utter that term in my presence and I have been around many people long since passed that racial epithets were part of their daily language. For that reason I don't understand the furor over the name. I think they should complain about how they were portrayed in TV shows and movies. Until the last couple decades they were portrayed by white people with make up and made out to be savages of very little intelligence.

[Meks]

plain and simple, fuck off

[MTK]

Using a specific tribe name is not going to make the issue go away. Once the name Redskins falls other names like Chiefs, Indians, etc won't be far behind.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Using a specific tribe name is not going to make the issue go away. Once the name Redskins falls other names like Chiefs, Indians, etc won't be far behind.

You would need to get the tribes approval. Like the Seminole tribe is in agreement with FSU using the name. Not sure how an actual tribe name can be offensive to anyone, especially if they approved it. I mean are we actually trying to erase the memory of Native Americans?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You would need to get the tribes approval. Like the Seminole tribe is in agreement with FSU using the name. Not sure how an actual tribe name can be offensive to anyone, especially if they approved it. I mean are we actually trying to erase the memory of Native Americans?

Using the name or likeness of an indigenous person as a team mascot/name is what it boils down to for those on that side of the argument. It's not simply the word Redskins they have a problem with.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Using the name or likeness of an indigenous person as a team mascot/name is what it boils down to for those on that side of the argument. It's not simply the word Redskins they have a problem with.

Well those people are absurd. That's fucking stupid. They would be offended if the team had approval from a tribe to use the name? Hell, the tribe can even pick the logo. Doesn't have to be an image of a human.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I mean are we actually trying to erase the memory of Native Americans?

Out of sight, out of mind.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Using a specific tribe name is not going to make the issue go away. Once the name Redskins falls other names like Chiefs, Indians, etc won't be far behind.

Chiefs will probably stay along with Indians because those aren't deemed "racist" Redskins was apparently a term the White men used to identify natives as... For the record every native friend I have from Oklahoma likes the skins also.. But whatever, change the name fuck it

[rocnrik]

Change it .. hell then I can close this chapter in my life .. once they change the name the identity of the team is gone .. so will the years of loyal fans .lets call them the Washington pc ‘s , the people that are offended by the name most likely don’t watch football .. it’s all political agenda crap ..I’m offended by a lot of crap mostly I’m offended by the people who are offended ! I’m offended that the nfl has a team in Chicago that the black murder rate is through the roof and they put that team on prime time ! If the nfl wants to get into politics then get into it !!! Tell the Chicago mayor either stop this genocide in your city or the Nfl will do away with your team ..I guess aethist will find the saints name offensive 😳.. and what about the browns ( is that really about the last name) hmmmm... did the cowboys not slaughter indians way back .. the native Americans should really have issues with that ..yea I know the redskins is a horrible horrible name .. how the hell could I have been so blind ...so all these years I’ve been a racist and did not know it ..I guess we all are for even pulling for team .. who can I sue for selling me stuff all these years with a rascist logo name on it ? Let’s face it .. the name is going to change .. sooner than later.

[SunnySide]

The Washington Post recently published an article which claimed that “the majority of Native Americans still aren’t offended by the name of Washington Redskins.” The article comes amid ongoing debate over whether the name of the US capital’s football team is racist.

Upon reading the poll’s findings, we quickly learn that the publication conducted this survey via phone with 500 “self-identified” Native Americans. The Post also profiled 12 of the participants who had various opinions on the mascot debate – with an emphasis on those who approve of the Washington Redskins. Curiously, the Post conducted this same survey in 2016.
Even if groups of self-identified Native Americans don’t find the term offensive, “redskins” is still racist on its face. Of the 12 profiled by WaPo, there was at least one authentic Native pointing to the fact that Natives often use the term “skins” to describe one another. This is similar to black communities reclaiming the n-word, but, likewise, not every Native person uses this word.



Should a team representing the capital of the United States really be embracing a racial slur? Washington DC is the historic gathering place for calls to action and protest centre of policy in America. The dictionary defines the term “redskins” as a racial slur, which should shut down any debate. Several Native organizations and tribes have petitioned the Washington Redskins to change their name.


Growing up on the Northern Cheyenne reservation in Montana, I wasn’t removed from my culture and community. Being rooted in heritage meant my education started with elders passing on oral history, including language used to dehumanize our ancestors. My tribe doesn’t identify as “redskins”. This is a derogatory term coined by colonialists often historically used interchangeably with “savages”.

We don’t need polls to ascertain that racial slurs are offensive. We don’t even need to compare them to “the n-word” to illustrate they’re plain wrong. What is the point of polls on the topic? They discredit work Indigenous activists have done championing for change and progression. Polls also erase Native voices who continue speaking out using the hashtag #NotYourMascot. Washington DC is supposed to be a progressive and tolerant city, yet this issue comes up for rigorous debate every few years.

While other organizations in the United States have listened to Native activists and gotten rid of offensive mascot names, a sports team representing our nation’s capitol proudly flies racism. Hiding behind “self-identified” Native Americans urging nations deeply rooted in community to get over it represents everything that is Washington DC. Not just in the era of Trump, either. We still have a lot of work to do.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a9058881.html