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Old 08-07-2019, 09:10 AM   #16
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

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Case will be the starter this year...he will surprise a lot of folks ! No need to wish Haskins to get beat up behind suspect line.. if Moses go down and Trent does not play we got a bad o line..
Really hope this is the case. Just think people are overlooking his experience and numbers thus far (respectable not elite.) Heard Denver's oline wasn't great at all last year. Again, give Keenum a fair chance. Haskins isn't going anywhere for awhile, and we pretty much know what we have in McCoy.
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Old 08-07-2019, 09:50 AM   #17
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I believe
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reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

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Old 08-07-2019, 09:56 AM   #18
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Colt obviously rushed back and not healthy....and the Front office keeps wondering why we stay the most injured team year after year. these fucking dopes
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:05 AM   #19
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reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

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Old 08-07-2019, 09:08 PM   #20
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

Iím glad Colt isnít playing this game because it means more reps for Dwayne with the second team.

I wanted to see Guice play, but interested to see the Perrine vs Byron dynamic. Both those guys have been playing well in TC.

I want to see the rookie WR and second year WR. Want to see McLaurin and Quinn and Cam Sims and Harmon. I donít care about Doctson - I think he will be dumped before the regular season. Other WR on the bubble.

Want to see Sweat make a sack or two



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Old 08-07-2019, 09:17 PM   #21
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

I want to see some bubble players or guys coming back from injuries that are having a really good training camp:

Parham -rookie TE

Ioannidas - second yr - DL

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Old 08-07-2019, 09:40 PM   #22
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

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reported this but yes Colt McCoy will be held out Thursday night. Want to keep making sure about the leg. Was held out for precautionary reasons in full team drill the other day. Held out one practice earlier too.

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Yeah I don't like the fact that he's out at all. Just looks terrible considering how he ended the season last year. SMH. Maybe it is something minor (hopefully), but it is not encouraging.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:04 PM   #23
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

Colt has never been able to make it through a season without getting hurt. He is a journeyman BACKUP QB with a very average 75 QB rating. He has had opportunities to be the #1 QB before, and it has never worked out. He is what, 32? So does anyone really think he is going to magically transform to be an elite QB and take this team to the top of the NFC East?

At best, Colt or Case is going to take this team through five or six losses before they bring in Haskins to finish out the season.

Iíd rather see Haskins start from game 1 and give him the experience, even through the losses. Heíll be that much better next season.


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I want to see some bubble players or guys coming back from injuries that are having a really good training camp:

Parham -rookie TE

Ioannidas - second yr - DL

Davis -WR


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Ioannidis is entering his 4th season, but I do hope he's recovered well from his injury.

On the bubble guys, I agree the TE position will be interesting, can Flanagan and/or Holtz make the team as TE/FB ?

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Old 08-08-2019, 03:36 AM   #25
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Competent passing game would be nice. We have the defense, we have good special teams play, and we have a decent Running game......we need the passing game. Stable Oline play would be a close second
While I agree I really want to see us move the ball through the air, I disagree that we "have the defense." I want them to prove it tomorrow night. On paper, yeah it looks good. But I've been burned too many times by this team to ever just assume we're going to have a solid unit, wherever it may be.

The defensive line is the only unit who has SHOWN and PROVED that they can be relied on. After that it's 2 new starters at ILB, Kerrigan and possibly a Rookie on the outsides (if not then it's Ryan Anderson on one side which is probably worse.) Not the strongest line backing core although Kerrigan is an obvious stud.

Then in the secondary we have Norman who has also PROVEN to be solid but then what? Collins is a beast, but he hasn't played a down here and we can't assume he's going to play at that previous level. (Haynsworth?) Monte has been oft hurt, who plays if he goes down? Is Dunbar coming back healthy and at a similar performance level?

Case in point; I want to see the defense play to the ability I know they're capable of. We assume they will play well and they really should, but I have been let down too many times before to just take it for granted. I think the D-Line leadership is taking over the entire defense and those men up front set the tone and culture. It could and should be something special, I just want to actually see it.

EDIT: I do realize tomorrow is Pre-Season Game 1 and there's still plenty of work to be done. I just want to see that the defense is headed in the right direction with all the talent on that side of the ball.
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Old 08-08-2019, 08:25 AM   #26
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^I totally agree. Ill say this, easily most talent on the defensive side of the ball in over ten years. You have a couple guys approaching end of expensive contracts - R Kerrigan and Josh Norman. We need put it together this year

The coaching staff has zero excuses for defense
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No excuses for the Defense, we absolutely should be a top 12 scoring D.
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Re: Skins @ Browns PS WK 1

If I had to guess, I'd say we will average about 22 PPG on Offense (bottom 10 or so)

Give up an average of 21 PPG (Should be top 12-15).

7-9 wins possible, anything higher would be an absolute surprise
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While I agree I really want to see us move the ball through the air, I disagree that we "have the defense." I want them to prove it tomorrow night. On paper, yeah it looks good. But I've been burned too many times by this team to ever just assume we're going to have a solid unit, wherever it may be.

The defensive line is the only unit who has SHOWN and PROVED that they can be relied on. After that it's 2 new starters at ILB, Kerrigan and possibly a Rookie on the outsides (if not then it's Ryan Anderson on one side which is probably worse.) Not the strongest line backing core although Kerrigan is an obvious stud.

Then in the secondary we have Norman who has also PROVEN to be solid but then what? Collins is a beast, but he hasn't played a down here and we can't assume he's going to play at that previous level. (Haynsworth?) Monte has been oft hurt, who plays if he goes down? Is Dunbar coming back healthy and at a similar performance level?

Case in point; I want to see the defense play to the ability I know they're capable of. We assume they will play well and they really should, but I have been let down too many times before to just take it for granted. I think the D-Line leadership is taking over the entire defense and those men up front set the tone and culture. It could and should be something special, I just want to actually see it.

EDIT: I do realize tomorrow is Pre-Season Game 1 and there's still plenty of work to be done. I just want to see that the defense is headed in the right direction with all the talent on that side of the ball.
I think there are a couple really good players on the defense that are going to make this D one of the best in the NFL. Allen is having a great TC and is poised to really bust out this year. Landon Collins has also made waves in TC and adds a lot in the Safety position. Payne and Sweat have tons of potential, so I'm interested to see how they do in the pre-season with a problem this defense always had had: a weak pass rush. Moreland has been having a great TC and made some INT, so I'm excited to see if he can keep it going. Nicholson, even though he is small has been making some big hits in TC, another guy to watch.

I agree with you that the Redskins often are the best team in the spring and at TC and then can't do anything on the field. But this current Defense has really had some real sparks in TC and a great deal of potential. Many of the really good or potentially good players are rookies or second-year guys. I think this defense is going to surprise the NFL with how good it is.

I'm more worried about our OL, especially if there are any injuries - it has no depth at all without TW.
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Hope all teams can come away injury free!
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