05-29-2018, 03:18 PM | #166 |
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^^^^^
In regards to this, I always felt that one of Cousins' biggest issues was connecting in short to intermediate throws. These often happened in 3rd and short situations, which did not help in keeping the opposing offense off the field.
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05-29-2018, 04:52 PM | #167 |
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Likewise, if the QB drops a dime right on his WR but it hits his WR's hands, bounces up in the air, and is picked off by a safety, that's not a turnover worthy throw. And if the QB throws it, the DB gets his hands on it and actually makes the interception, that of course goes down as a turnover worthy throw. It's basically trying to cut through the fortunate and unfortunate bounces of the ball to determine whether a QB was at fault on a throw that either could have or did cause a turnover. When you plot Smith's turnover worthy % against his big time throw %, he bubbles up to the upper quadrant of the graph in rare company - it's only him and Brady with such strong big time throw %s and such low turnover worthy throw %s. Worth noting of course that this is reflective of a surrounding cast. I don't think Cousins is as bad as his numbers showed in 2017 - the offensive line was decimated. But I also think that if healthy, Smith will play with a supporting cast on offense that is in no way a step down from what he had in KC. Health of the supporting cast will be key. If it's there, then you'll see performance stronger than what Cousins put up in 2016 when the offense was healthy.
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05-29-2018, 07:27 PM | #169 |
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Valuable stats, thanks!
Then, as you mention in your last post, QB probably is the most dependable position on the field. But we finished 7-9 (and were a couple of plays away of 9-7) while being decimated by injuries.
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05-29-2018, 07:41 PM | #170 |
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Pff has definitely done a good job bringing more relevant stats to light. Thanks for sharing.
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05-29-2018, 09:13 PM | #171 |
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I'm interested in the disparity between Kirk's rank against the blitz (3rd) and his rank against pressure (20th).
Could he plan and account for a blitz versus have to react to and go off schedule to deal with pressure? Any theories?
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To me, Cousins’s success against the blitz says he’s adept at very quickly diagnosing a defense and very quickly getting rid of the ball. He does a good job of deploying hot routes and knows where to go with it if he sees blitz. Basically he’s a smart QB. But the poor stats against pressure mean that once a rusher breaks free of his block and is bearing down on Cousins, his athleticism limits him to pedestrian performance. He can’t escape like Wilson or Wentz, he can’t shrug big dudes off like Roethlisberger, and he can’t make other worldly throws on the run like Rodgers. We’ve seen that tons of times. To me it points to a QB who will do well during the regular season, but against the better pass rushes that come in the playoffs, the team around him will need to play perfectly to get him over the hump. And thus the reason he chose Minnesota. He himself knows his limitations.
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05-29-2018, 11:16 PM | #173 |
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Great stats, and they reflect what we've seen in KC for years. I'm fine with the decision to trade for Smith, I think he's an upgrade at least this year to Cousins, and honestly the lack of drama will help the team.
Smith's numbers/stats above are better but he is 34yo and on the decline (max 2-4more years) - while KC can still improve. Not to mention the injuries to the entire team last year without any running game -- make comparison of numbers incredibly difficult. Smith may be slightly better but the comparison is close. In the end - we basically lost 5 years of good QB and a 8-10 years of good to elite CB -- both in their prime. That hurts. But the eagles seemed to turn things around in 1-2 drafts, we can too.. |
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Also we can't brag about his playoff appearances because while he's done a good job of getting the Chiefs there, it's not like they've done anything once they got in. |
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Likewise a qb who doesnt turnover the ball and put the defense in a bad position, or converts 3rd and medium with a regular consistency thus keeping special teams in good field position is far more valuable then 33%. And that's the change we are hoping to get with AS. |
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Oh God. If there is one former quarterback who should never be mentioned by name again it is him. I don’t think he ever completed a pass for over 4 yards. Actually I don’t think he ever attempted a pass for over four yards. That was probably the most trying time to be a Skins fan. |
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It isn’t more valuable it is just that we forced our own hand, and if we had played our cards better we would not have had to give that up for the quarterback. |
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05-30-2018, 10:15 AM | #180 |
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True point but I'm Just Saying I'd rather have AS over KF, we will see who had the better end of the deal in a few years though.
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