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Old 05-10-2018, 03:21 PM   #136
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but, who gives a f***

If the Skins became the Warriors, or and went with the Arrow helmet, would it end up affecting you in any way?

Just change it and be done.

It is also true that in this day and age, NO OTHER ethnic group would go for a team named after their skin color, regardless of the origin of the word.
This. Exactly.
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:45 PM   #137
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Let me take these one at a time...

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If the Skins became the Warriors, or and went with the Arrow helmet, would it end up affecting you in any way?
I don't care.

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Just change it and be done.
I don't care.

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It is also true that in this day and age, NO OTHER ethnic group would go for a team named after their skin color, regardless of the origin of the word.
I don't care.
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Old 05-10-2018, 03:46 PM   #138
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Re: Breaking News on team name

The bottom line is, I like the name, and if I were Dan Snyder my message would be exactly the same. He used the phrase, "We will never change the name. Never. You can use caps."

My message, to anybody who wanted to change it, would be fuck you I don't care.
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Old 05-10-2018, 04:28 PM   #139
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The bottom line is, I like the name, and if I were Dan Snyder my message would be exactly the same. He used the phrase, "We will never change the name. Never. You can use caps."

My message, to anybody who wanted to change it, would be fuck you I don't care.
but are you going to stop supporting the team if they did change it?
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:39 PM   #140
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but are you going to stop supporting the team if they did change it?
This question is the very definition of hypothetical because it's never going to happen. It's not even an interesting debate subject.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:18 PM   #141
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This question is the very definition of hypothetical because it's never going to happen. It's not even an interesting debate subject.
The question is the ultimate profit loss analysis that snyder would look at before he changes the name. If he believes there is no fan loss by changing the name the chances go up that he will see a bottom line benefit to changing the name.

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Old 05-11-2018, 10:08 AM   #142
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The question is the ultimate profit loss analysis that snyder would look at before he changes the name. If he believes there is no fan loss by chamging the name the chances go up that he will see a bottom line benefit to changing the name.
they'd sell the remaining crap off to stores or online retailers, who would continue to sell it, because, well, ppl would STILL buy it .... shit they would make current "Warriors" players jerseys as Redskins and call it a throwback .. Mitchell & Ness would have a field day.... and guess what? we'd still buy it.

Dans a smart business man, he'd figure it out. If anything the merchandise revenue as a whole would prolly rise for a few years. Unless the warriors uniforms sucked.
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Old 05-11-2018, 09:22 PM   #143
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At this pace, we'll eliminate every reference to Native Americans in our country. Future Americans will only think that whoever they were, they always loved gambling.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:04 PM   #144
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The question is the ultimate profit loss analysis that snyder would look at before he changes the name. If he believes there is no fan loss by changing the name the chances go up that he will see a bottom line benefit to changing the name.
If you think he's a straight bottom line guy then you haven't paid attention to the last 15 years. He certainly is interested in the bottom line, no argument there. But he's also interested in control and perception.

When he was vilified in the media he undertook an intentional PR effort to rehab his image.

He cares deeply about how he is perceived. He will not change the name after using the phrase "you can use caps" - he knows he will be perceived as caving.

You oversimplify by distilling it down to a straight cost/benefit conversation. Snyder's ego is paramount in this discussion.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:07 PM   #145
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And just to add one last time, this conversation is a waste of time. He's not going to change the name.

If you're one of the PC ninnies, it's time to grow some nuts and not get offended so easily. And if you're trying to make some academic argument how it won't affect the bottom line, you've already wasted too much time thinking about it.

It's not going to happen. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Just let it go.
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Old 05-14-2018, 12:47 PM   #146
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If you think he's a straight bottom line guy then you haven't paid attention to the last 15 years. He certainly is interested in the bottom line, no argument there. But he's also interested in control and perception.

When he was vilified in the media he undertook an intentional PR effort to rehab his image.

He cares deeply about how he is perceived. He will not change the name after using the phrase "you can use caps" - he knows he will be perceived as caving.

You oversimplify by distilling it down to a straight cost/benefit conversation. Snyder's ego is paramount in this discussion.
Fair enough.
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Old 05-14-2018, 01:25 PM   #147
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Why are we still talking about this? The lawsuit has been dismissed. Dan Snyder is not changing the name. I'm sorry, DAN SNYDER IS NOT CHANGING THE NAME. (In all cap) No reason to change the name. Let it go and hail to the Redskins.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:54 AM   #148
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Poll results have consistently shown that Native Americans are overwhelmingly supportive or ambivalent to the name. Calls for the team to change its name generally seem to come from liberal white men. I’m a liberal white man myself, but on principle I find it incredibly offensive that a few white men seem to think it’s their role to tell Native Americans what they should and should not find offensive - as if we are the only ones smart enough to understand the term is derogatory and the poor simple minded native Americans need us to explain it to them and come to their defense.

If and when there is evidence that a substantial portion of people of Native American descent find the name offensive, I’ll change my position. It doesn’t even have to be a majority - even 1/3rd would be enough to make me reconsider. Until then, I’m not interested in hearing any more white people criticize the name. They need to find a more useful cause to champion.


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Old 05-15-2018, 08:33 AM   #149
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Agree with BHA. I'm a moderate white man. But as a basic and decent human being, I follow the general rules:

- Women are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to women
- African Americans are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to African Americans
- Jewish people are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to Jewish people
- Native Americans are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to Native Americans
- etc.

I do this in deference to others. You tell me what's OK and what's not, and I'll gladly abide. The fact that 85 - 90% are either OK or like the Redskins name tells me my conscience can rest easy and not to worry about the issue. I couldn't care less what liberal white males have to say about the subject. Their opinions don't matter. Deference to the groups in question is how you appropriately sensitize yourself.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:57 AM   #150
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Agree with BHA. I'm a moderate white man. But as a basic and decent human being, I follow the general rules:

- Women are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to women
- African Americans are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to African Americans
- Jewish people are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to Jewish people
- Native Americans are the ones who tell the world what is offensive to Native Americans
- etc.

I do this in deference to others. You tell me what's OK and what's not, and I'll gladly abide. The fact that 85 - 90% are either OK or like the Redskins name tells me my conscience can rest easy and not to worry about the issue. I couldn't care less what liberal white males have to say about the subject. Their opinions don't matter. Deference to the groups in question is how you appropriately sensitize yourself.
Journalist with degrees from Northwestern also tell us what's offensive.

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